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Anatoly Karpov vs Valery A Chekhov
URS (1972), Nov-??
Spanish Game: Open Variations. Classical Defense (C83)  ·  0-1

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Feb-25-04  xplor: The uncompromising Valery Chekhov
Tschechov is the German spelling. He was about 16 when the game was played.
Feb-26-04  drukenknight: wow! He is some player. Karpov actually looks desperate when he sacks the exchange, is there some reason 26 g4 cannot be played?
Feb-26-04  Cyphelium: <dk> What's your idea after 26.- fxg3?
Feb-26-04  karpovv: what are you doing,karpov?
Feb-26-04  drukenknight: Cyph Im thinking

26...fxg3
27. Qg2 Bf2
28. Bxg5 Qxg5
29. Rxe6 Bxe1

somethign like that.

if he wanted to sack the exchange what if 26 g4 fxg3 27 Rg1 isnt that a way more trickier way to sack the exchange?

Feb-27-04  Cyphelium: <dk> Yeah, that variation looks reasonable. How do you evaluate it though? I think your variation results in a bad position for white. The threat is 30.- Qc1 and it is hard to see what white should do. On the other hand, I agree with you that 26. Rxb6 looks pretty desperate.

As for 26. g4 fxg3 27. Rg1, it may be that 27.- Bxg1 28. Rxe6 Qxe6 29. Bxg5 Bxh2 is troublesome in view of Ra8-a1.

Feb-27-04  drukenknight: How do I evalauate it? I dont. At least not in the same way that you do.

You say it's a "bad position" but there is "the threat of xyz..." and "hard to see."

Okay, but instead of all that, my evaluation is "it seems to keep the game alive."

You see there are only two possible positions of all the chess pieces on the board, either the game is lost or the game is still draw. That is all there is. Think about it. It makes life easier if you know that already.

Well do you want to suggest a next move? I would say that if we play a few more moves you might again come to conclusion, "yes it looks bad," "hard to see" Etc.

But funny enuf, we play a few moves, it looks bad, we play a few more moves, its' really bad. ANd before you know it, you're playing real chess.

That is real chess. Hanging on because you know how to. Dont listen to the other guy tell you how bad it is.

Feb-28-04  Cyphelium: <dk> Ok, I think we arrived at a bad postion but you think "it seems to keep the game alive." But you haven't suggested what white should do?

>That is real chess. Hanging on because you know how to. Dont listen to the other guy tell you how bad it is.

Yes, but this is an analysis, not real chess.

"You see there are only two possible positions of all the chess pieces on the board, either the game is lost or the game is still draw. That is all there is. Think about it. It makes life easier if you know that already. "

That is an interesting statement in itself, but you're a bit pessimistic I think. (I would say that there are three possible positions. Think about it.)

Feb-28-04  drukenknight: No I have suggested what he should
do.

26...fxg3
27. Qg2 Bf2
28. Bxg5 Qxg5
29. Rxe6 Bxe1

Oh? Its my move now? Hmm...

Nov-27-08  utssb: There's nothing to analyze <drukenknight>, after 29...Bxe1 it's over.
Mar-15-13  ekanth: Gentlemen ,26.Rxb6 is not desperate,its forced,otherwise..26.......Qxh2+,27.Kxh2,Rh6++
Jan-06-14  lost in space: Was Spock helping Chekhov to win this?

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