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| Jan-09-07 | | Cannon Fodder: I totally missed this one by choosing Bc3. The mistake consisted of a) not seeing that black has a check and b) not calculating far enough to see that the f4 pawn will protect the bishop when black attacks the promotion square. Oh well, at least I got yesterday's puzzle. |
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| Jan-09-07 | | Trouble: nice problem, solved it instantly
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| Jan-09-07 | | unsound: <Fisheremon> 33.a3 with the idea 33...Rb2, 34.Bb4, right? Took me a little while to see your point. |
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| Jan-09-07 | | simsan: <Fishermon> Yes the computer gives both Rd6 and Rd7 pretty good evalutations in addition to Rd8+. But Rd8+ is of course clearly better from all perspectives. better eval, forced lines, simplification, easily won endgame After Be5 Bb6+ 38. Kg2 Ba7 39. b8Q/R+ Bxb8 40.Bxb8 the position would call for a resignation even in blitz games at my level of play. |
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| Jan-09-07 | | greensfield: Went along 34. Rd7 route, so missed the nice 34. Rd8+ with the Bishop fork etc. |
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| Jan-09-07 | | GannonKnight: One of the easier Tuesday puzzles. |
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| Jan-10-07 | | Fisheremon: <unsound: <Fisheremon> 33.a3 with the idea 33...Rb2, 34.Bb4, right? Took me a little while to see your point.> 33.a3 is a typically silent move (you could also discover 28...e4 was a positional mistake leading to the lost position). Black has to be forced with 33...Rc6, or Rc8 leading to immediate loss of big material. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | Brenin: After 34 Rd8+ Bxd8 (or Kg7 35 b8=Q Rxb8 36 Rxb8) 35 Bc3+ Kg8 36 Bxb2 Bc7 37 Be5 Black cannot prevent the b-pawn from queening. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | drollere: i don't recall a puzzle like this were there are several ways to win: A. 34. Rd8+ Bxd8, 35. Bc3+ Kg8, 36. Bxb2 Kf8, 37. Be5 B. 34. Bc3 Rxb7, 35. Bxf6+ Kg8, 36. Rd8#
C. 34. Bc3 Bxc3, 35. Rd8+ Kg7, 36. b8=Q Rxb8, 37. Rxb8 |
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| Oct-12-21 | | raymondhow: 34.Bc3 appears to fail to...♖b1+. (Engine found that, can't claim credit.) |
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| Oct-12-21 | | mel gibson: Today and yesterday -
too simple to bother checking with Stockfish. |
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Oct-12-21
 | | al wazir: My move, 34. Bc3, also works: 34...Bxc3 35. Rd8+ Kg7 36. b8=Q Rxb8 37. Rxb8 e3 38. Kf1 Kf6 39. Ke2 Bd2 40. Ra8. It just takes a little longer. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | nalinw: <al wazir> 34. Bc3 doesnt work - see above |
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| Oct-12-21 | | drollere: <34. Bc3 doesnt work - see above> 34. Bc3 Rb1+, 35. Kf2 ... now what? |
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| Oct-12-21 | | agb2002: Black threatens Rxb7.
The alignment of Black's king and rook on the a1-h8 diagonal and White's b-pawn suggest 34.Rd8+: A) 34... Bxd8 35.Bc3+
A.1) 35... Kg8 36.Bxb2 Bc7 37.Be5 wins.
A.2) 35... f6 36.Bxb2 Bc7 37.Bxf6+ Kg8 38.Be5 wins. B) 34... Kg7 35.b8=Q wins. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | nalinw: <drollere> - 34. Bc3 Rb1+, 35. Kf2 ... now what? 35 ... Kg7 - protecting the Bishop and getting out of the tempo-winning check ... |
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| Oct-12-21 | | TheBish: White to play (34.?) "Easy"
Black's bishop is overworked, guarding both d8 and the long diagonal. This leads to the candidate move Rd8+, a deflection sacrifice (although temporary). 34. Rd8+! Bxd8
Or 34...Kg7 25. b8=Q wins a rook for a pawn.
35. Bc3+ Kg8 (35...f6 just gives away another pawn after 36. Bxb2 Bc7 [36...Bb6+ 37. Kf1 Ba7 38. Bxf6+ Kg8 39. Be5 is similar] 37. Bxf6+ Kg8 38. Be5) 36. Bxb2 Bc7 37. Be5 and wins. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | saturn2: The Rd2 threatens white's two imporatant pawns.. So trade it off. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | TheaN: I instantly saw the potential of <34.Rd8+>, actually missing <34....Bxd8>, which would be a bit awkward as 34....Kg7 35.b8Q is a basic manouver. From here, <35.Bc3+ Kg8 36.Bxb2 Bc7 37.Be5> kind of plays itself, where White will force promotion, but 'only' at the cost of the bishop after <37....Bb6+ 38.Kg2 a7 39.b8Q+ Bxb8 40.Bxb8 +-> and White makes time control a piece up. Mind that <34.Bc3?<>> fails because Black has a tempo to solve the problems on the a1-h8 diagonal. <34....Rb1+ 35.Kf2 Kg7! =<>> and surprisingly, White has nothing and has to be wary of the advanced a-pawn. |
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| Oct-12-21 | | cocker: 34 Rd7 is almost as good (as pointed out in the past). |
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Oct-12-21
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Oct-12-21
| | chrisowen: No dr it was blanched it no? |
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Oct-12-21
| | chrisowen: No hog good ate fond no? |
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| Oct-12-21 | | AlicesKnight: Saw the game continuation; all (sensible) roads lead ultimately to White win, but after ...Bb6+ and ...Ba7 at some stage, White only emerges a bishop up, losing the b-pawn, and must just ensure the passed e-pawn does not become an issue. |
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Oct-12-21
| | chrisowen: Value gaff too a no? |
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sac: 34.Rd8+