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Igor Kindij vs Borislav Ivkov
YUG-ch 7th (1951), Sarajevo, rd 16, Dec-06
Old Indian Defense: Two Knights Variation (A54)  ·  1/2-1/2



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  kevin86: Bad technique cost this win. It is not easy,but a queen should always beat a rook.
Sep-21-04  mjk: <kevin86> Yes, in this game it is mate in 32 after 77...♖d5 (it is mate in 34 after 77...♖d6) <Nalimov>

But never say always: Bronstein vs Kotov, 1952 :)

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  kevin86: <mjk>I made that exact statement in said game. Note,above,I said "should" not will or must.

Under ordinary circumstances,a queen WILL beat a rook,but sometimes circumstances are extraordinary.

Feb-08-09  WhiteRook48: the ending Q vs R is winning... sometimes
May-25-09  Gouvaneur: Queen vs. Rook is almost always won, there are a handful positions which are draw because of Stalemate Situations.
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  wwall: After 77...Rd5, an example win is 78.Ke7 Kb5 79.Ke6 Rd4 80.Ke5 Rd2 81.Ke4 Rd1 82.Qe8 Kb4 83.Qe7 Kc4 84.Qf7 Kb4 85.Qf2 Kc3 86.Qf3 Kc2 87.Qe3 Rc1 88.Qd3 Kb2 89.Qd2 Rc2 90.Qb4 Ka2 91.Kd3 Rb2 92.Qe4 h6 93.Qe6 Kb1 94.Qxh6 Rb3 95.Kc4 Rb2 96.Qf6 Kc2 97.Qg7 Kc1 98.Kc3 Rc2 99.Kb3 Re2 100.Qd4 Rg2 101.Qf4 Kd1102.Qf1 Kd2 103.Qxg2 wins

After 132,Kd5 White wins after 132...Rc3 133.Qb4 Rc7 134.Kd6 Rb7 135.Qa4 Kb6 136.Qa8 Rh7 137.Qc6 Ka5 138.Qc3 Kb6 139.Qb3 Ka5 140.Qa2 Kb5 141.Qb1 Kc4 142.Qxh7

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  kbob: At move 114 White had the key position to break down the third rank defense. But the forced mate in 19 moves beginning with 114. Qe3 ! is not at all intuitive. In "Secrets of Pawnless Endgames" John Nunn says if you take nothing else from the chapter it should be to memorize this sequence:

114. Qe3 Kb5 115. Qe8+ Kb6 116. Qb8+ Rb7 117. Qd6+ Ka7 118. Kc5 Rb2 119. Qd4 Rb6 120. Qe3 Kb7 121. Qe4+ Ka7 122. Qd4 Rb7 123. Kc6+ Ka8 124. Qh8+ Ka7 125. Qd8 Rh7 126. Qd4+ Kb8 127. Qe5+ Ka7 128. Qa1+ Kb8 129. Qb1+ Ka7 130. Qxh7+ Ka6 131. Qb7+ Ka5 132. Qb5#

Sep-27-21  Xeroxx: Pretty long game.
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  Messiah: <Xeroxx: Pretty long game.>


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  whiteshark: <XeroXX> Absolutely!

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