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Mar-22-10 | | birthtimes: And both players would have been very familiar with the following game... Geller vs Minic, 1968 |
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Jun-27-10 | | Marmot PFL: 33 Nxf5 For the exchange White has a pawn more, and his pieces, first of all his knight, are in good positions. Unfortunately Taimanov played badly for the rest of the game. (Tal) <GK argues that after 36 Ng3! instead of 36 Nd4 white would still have had everything to play for> Here Tal recommended 36 Qg5 or even 36 g4. His notes are older though and do not benefit from computer lines. |
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Mar-16-12 | | Garech: This is the best game of thier match, in mu opinion - great play from both sides but as in the other games Fischer has greater precision - especially with reduced material - and dominates. <Marmot> - even with perfect play after 33.Nxf5 white is struggling for equality at best (according to Fritz 12) as Fischer, as always, played like a machine. Similarly to Kasparov, Fritz suggests 36.Ng3 - where's your source for this? I'd be interested to know. Tal's aggressive 36.Qg5 seems to be refuted by 36...Rb2!  click for larger viewwhere play might continue 37.Bg7 Qc7+ 38.Kg1 Rb1+ 39.Bf1 Qb6!  click for larger viewwith a big edge for black.
36.g4 is definitely preferable, with roughly the same eval as 36.Ng3. Cheers,
-Garech |
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Mar-17-12 | | Riverbeast: You can't mess with Mother Nature....
And you can't attack Bobby Fischer |
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Mar-17-12
 | | Penguincw: Not a good way for Taimanov to start the match. |
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Dec-15-14 | | MindCtrol9: When Taimanov played 16.Ah5 with the idea to protect the pawn on e5, it looks obvious he did not calculate well because when Fischer captured the pawn on e6 and Taimanov captured on b7, Fischer gets the initiative starting with Nf 6 where he has to retrieve the Bishop followed Rub1 and taking on b2 threatening the Bishop on d2 which is unprotected. |
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Oct-18-15 | | maseras: 26.Qe3?
(26.Qg3! Kh7 27.Rc6! )
36.Nd4?
(36.g4! ∞) |
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Apr-01-17 | | Howard: Timman said recently in NIC that rather than waste time with 27.h3, the immediate 27.Ba6! would have given White a significant advantage. |
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May-19-17 | | Mithrain: What a complex game indeed! Great fighting-chess! |
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May-20-17
 | | Dionysius1: I like 2 things about the game. The x-ray capture 39 Nxa7, which is a tactic I'm trying to get to see as routine, and the fact that the final position doesn't look resignable but then when I really look the threat of the black N getting to f3 is too strong. |
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Jan-25-18
 | | Fischerfriend: I'd like to contribute to this legendary game. (Just like the 1st matchgame Fischer-Petrosian the great American won, but not without having overcome great perils...)
In my view, 27.h3 was a fine move and 27..Rf8 was doubtful. Let me explain: In the game there was played:
27.h3 Rf8 28.Ba6 Rb6 29.Rc7? Qa4!
According to Kasparow 29.Bb5 was the right move: 29..Rb5: 30.Rc7 Qe8 31.Rg7:+! Kg7:
32.Bh6:+ Kf7 33.Bf8: Nf8: 34.Nb5: Qb5:
35.Qa7:+ with an equal position.
Now I wonder why, after 27.Bb5! Kasparow gives
27.. Ng4 as black's best defense(, although white holds the advantage after the fine moves:
28.Qg3 Nf4: 29.Bb7: Bd4: 30.Qf4: Bf2:+ 31.Kh1
Bb6 32.Bc6!).
But... why not playing as in the game after 28.Ba6 ? So: 27.Ba6 Rb6! 28.Bb5 Rb5: 29.Rc7 Qe8 and the consequences could similar to 27.h3 Rf8 28.Ba6 Rb6 29.Bb5 Rb5: (or 28.Bb5 Rb5: too),
so 30.Rg7:+ etc.,
but now:
- Rf8 is not at stake, nor is pawn a7
- furthermore h2-h3 would have been pretty
useful for white
So, why going into the complications of 27.Bb5 Ng4, when black can attain a better position as in the game, which was just fine for black!? |
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Jan-25-18
 | | Fischerfriend: My reaction to Mindctrl9 from december 15-14:
16.Bh5 was a fine move. Now Black had to capture the e6 pawn with the Queen, after which white took on b7.
If white did not play, Fischer would grab the pawn by Ne8-c7-e6, which would be much more comfortable! |
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Jan-25-18
 | | Fischerfriend: Comment to Garech's remark on March-16-12;
I guess the endposition of your variation, after
39..Qb6, is a draw:
40.Bf6: Rf1:+ 41.Kf1: Qb1+ 42.Ke2 Qd3+ perpetual.
Or 40..Qf6: 41.Nh6+ Kg7 42.Nf5+ and again a perpetual check. |
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Aug-01-18 | | Howard: Kasparov questioned the choice 36.g4! in his MGP, but Timman gives a brief computer line in NIC that suggests that it was actually White's best option. |
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Jul-29-21
 | | GrahamClayton: 15. Ng5 Qe6 and 16. Nc7 is not possible due to 16...Nc7. |
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Nov-02-21 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: I think Taimanov put pieces on the wrong squares in the opening: Bd2, Rc1, Ng5. Ne6 is a mistake because the resulting pawn on e6 cannot be defended. |
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Nov-03-21
 | | perfidious: When White plays the manoeuvre Ng5-e6, he is not looking to defend the pawn, but to gain play on the light squares in exchange for the loss of time. |
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Nov-03-21
 | | harrylime: It's fair to say if they had played another six games in this match , Bobby would probably have won all six. Loike. 12 nil would have brought doooooon Breznev lol lol lol |
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Feb-13-22 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: < BearJr: Taimanov missed the blow 27.Ba6!,Rb6 28.Bb5!,Qf7 29.Rc7!,Ne7 etc... (says Rybka3).> How about
27. Ba6 Ng4 28. Qd2 Bxd4 29. Bxb7 Bxf2+ 30. Kh1 e3 ? |
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Mar-11-22 | | jerseybob: It was May 1971 and I was toiling in the AFRTS newsroom in Asmara, Ethiopia(now Eritrea) when the score came over the teletype. I'd been waiting for it. The moves quickly clacked out and I followed the position for the first 13-14 moves before losing the mental picture. The machine stopped, hesitated, and then...0-1! I let out a cheer. |
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Mar-11-22 | | alphamaster: I think the game adjourned after Black΄s 40th move and the Soviets resigned the game the next day. Fischer΄s last move Re1! was a surprise for the spectators and annotators but it was the best, as usual. |
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Mar-11-22 | | jerseybob: <alphamaster: I think the game adjourned after Black΄s 40th move and the Soviets resigned the game the next day> Could be, I was practically on the moon, as far as communications went in those days, so the whole thing may have happened a day before. With today's instant internet connections, hard to remember a time when you had to wait for news. |
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Mar-11-22 | | Sally Simpson: Hi Jersey Bob.
Taimanov sealed 41 Bg4 but resigned without playing on. |
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Mar-11-22 | | jerseybob: Thanks Sally, and Tommy says hi. |
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Sep-23-22 | | WickedPawn: <jerseybob> I remember waiting eagerly for the newspaper at the newsstand everyday to see what happened in the K-K 1990 match. |
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