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Robert James Fischer vs Tigran V Petrosian
Herceg Novi blitz (1970) (blitz), Herceg Novi YUG, rd 6, Apr-08
French Defense: Winawer. Classical Variation (C18)  ·  1-0

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Mar-08-03  Marnoff Mirlony: 16. Qxg7 looks a bit risky. Opening the line directly to your King for Black doesn't seem worth the two pawns. Then again I don't play the French and probably don't know what I'm talking about.
Mar-08-03  Spitecheck: Look at it this way Marn, once the g-pawn is dead it can no longer threaten white's king or anything for that matter. :)
Aug-13-03  Marnoff Mirlony: That's true. I know the logic behind the move, I just think it would be a difficult move to play because it can create a world of trouble(I'm not just referring to this move in particular, but also other such games where Qxg7 is played in the French).
Aug-13-03  drukenknight: what about 18...Ng4?

12...c4 might have been better.

Feb-09-05  fgh: This is the definitive proof to Fischer's quote "Blitz kill ideas."
Feb-25-06  chessworm: Well after seeing the Fischer's notes in this game, I did not really enjoy this as there are many errors from both the masters here where they threw off the wins and draws...
Nov-10-06  anjyplayer: Fischer comments clearly indicates that it was petrosian's mistake at move 20 that cost him the game, and not the fischer's genius. His games indicates more often than not that he won coz of luck many a times.
Nov-10-06  RookFile: Out of curiousity, anjyplayer, if a player doesn't make a mistake, how is the other guy supposed to win?
Jan-12-07  AAAAron: good point RookFile! Fischer is the genius because he saw the mistake and Petrosian did not. All good players make decisions and take risks now and then, but the true genius's make the fewest mistakes and know when and how to punish their opponents mistakes. If their were no mistakes or risks taken, then EVERY chess game would end in a draw. My point is Fischer was a genius!
Feb-06-07  anjyplayer: RookFile: Out of curiousity, anjyplayer, if a player doesn't make a mistake, how is the other guy supposed to win? Mistakes are not such blunders at the highest level. Mistakes are making strategically wrong plans, thats what you expect at the highest levels.
Feb-07-07  RookFile: So, this is a tactical blitz game with mistakes on both sides. If there was a lot of strategy in this game, I'd be delighted if you could point it out.
Feb-07-07  MrJimA: this looks like one of my 2 min games. very sloppy, both players were probaly very nervous.
Feb-08-07  vesivialvy93: As previously said here, a true genius make less mistakes than others but more important than everything is that a genius never win because he is a genius but because others are not...to reach that level of play you have to understand WHY you have won a game and where the guy you beat made mistakes , the day a chess player sit to replay his wins only to watch how great he played ....it's over !!!
Sep-12-08  joelsontang: where can i get notes by fischer apart from his 60 memorable games???
Dec-11-08
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  maxi: Strange mistake in move 20 for Petrosian to make, considering how aggressive his Queen would have looked on the mating diagonal. Sometimes it's the easy ones you miss.
Jul-17-09  WhiteRook48: Fischer and Petrosian trading mistakes
Jul-12-10  BISHOP TAL: Mistakes, mistakes, well even slow games theres always mistakes (kasparov)this is prolly a 5 minute blitz not much time, to be thinking about your moves, These are to all time greats and whoever said it looks like my 2 minute games, nuts.
Apr-26-12  screwdriver: I didn't realize this was a blitz game until after I read the comments.
May-04-21
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  kingscrusher: Although in the notes Fischer calls Nd2 "standard" as a way of protecting the a4 pawn, for me, it all seems rather dangerous in this blitz context when one is playing also dxc5 which potentially allows later d4 from black and then there is not just the g-file but also the a8-h1 diagonal to be concerned with. For me this Winawer variation should not be in anyone's blitz chess repertoire - just too much complexity and hassle to deal with :)
May-04-21  SChesshevsky: < Although in the notes Fischer calls Nd2 "standard" as a way of protecting the a4 pawn...>

Think one thing about Fischer and the Winawer was that he was conflicted about Qg4 and follow ups. Believe that he felt instinctively that it was maybe the major way to get an advantage in many/most lines but he never trusted it. Going over games, R. Byrne once asked him about it but Fischer was skeptical because "it just gives Black what he wants." Here he might've saw the tempo and relative simplification benefits were clear.

<...For me this Winawer variation should not be in anyone's blitz chess repertoire...>

Probably agree. Unless one wants to be a Winawer expert might not be wise to "wing it" when ratings are on the line. But playing Winawer's might be the best bang for the buck for training games. Many strategic aspects (King safety, pawn structure, open lines, etc.) pretty much get thrown in your face plus tactical possibilities abound at the same time. Found that by playing many, many Winawer training games and taking them seriously with post-mortems, can't help but improve.

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