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| Aug-01-10 | | vonKrolock: <whiteshark> Yes, already a classic, it should go to my wish-list, thanks! |
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Mar-17-15
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Mar-17-15
 | | perfidious: <whiteshark: (Huebner) added and analysed this game on a mere of six pages.> Given numerous analyses he has published for Informator, this qualifies as a short day at the office. |
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| Feb-16-17 | | diagonal: Interzonal first round game between GM Fischer and (then) IM Hübner: When Fischer immediately played 32.Qxa7? which loses a piece and throws away White's winning chances as <Eyal> pointed out above, Fischer had more than one hour on his clock, meanwhile Hübner had only around a minute left (first time control at 40 moves, 2 1/2 hours), according to Robert Hübner in the monthly SCHACH 8/2016 |
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| Feb-16-17 | | Howard: One suspects that Fischer should have won this game, somehow. |
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| Apr-17-18 | | RookFile: I would have played 32. Bg2. It doesn't win or anything, but it invites black to go wrong in his time trouble. |
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| Apr-17-18 | | RookFile: Eyal's 32. Bf3 is probably even better. |
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| Apr-17-18 | | Howard: Fischer almost certainly should have won this game but his greedy pawn snatch on the 32nd move was probably what dropped half-a-point. |
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| Apr-17-18 | | NBZ: How does White win after 32. Bf3? Black plays 32. ... Qe7 which stops any thoughts White might have of bringing his king over to the q-side (which was one suggestion). Of course White has an edge but Black is rock-solid here. It's not impossible that Fischer knew the draw was coming, that Qxa7 in any case does not risk losing, and the pawn snatch was to give Black a chance to go wrong (for example by playing 32. ... Ng4 instead of Ne4). |
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| Apr-17-18 | | RookFile: Yeah, like I said, I don't think it wins. Not with best play by both sides. White's main hope would be that black makes a mistake in time trouble. Huebner was strong, maybe that wouldn't happen. |
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| Feb-04-20 | | Howard: Bit hard to believe that Fischer--playing White--couldn't beat Huebner, who was only 22 at the time. |
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Feb-04-20
 | | keypusher: <Howard: Bit hard to believe that Fischer--playing White--couldn't beat Huebner, who was only 22 at the time.> It's not the teensiest-weensiest bit hard to believe. Orange you much more surprised that Fischer didn't beat Renato Naranja, who wasn't even in the top 400 in the world? Fischer <did> manage to win the tournament by 3 1/2 points, somehow. |
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| Feb-04-20 | | Petrosianic: <Howard: Bit hard to believe that Fischer--playing White--couldn't beat Huebner, who was only 22 at the time.> This is probably one of the reasons Fischer had to retire. He built up expections that nobody could live up to, even him. When you have to apologize for not winning EVERY game, it's time to hang it up. By definition, you can never exceed expectations, only underperform or break even. |
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Feb-04-20
 | | HeMateMe: wasn't Huebner twice a Candidates finalist? Hugely ignorant to criticize him for one draw against Fischer. bobby Fischer was mentally ill and became progressively worse after 1972. |
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| Feb-05-20 | | Howard: Granted, Fischer just simply had an off day when he played Hubner---not to sound overcritical of him. Hubner, by the way, made the Candidates three times--not two. |
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| Feb-05-20 | | Petrosianic: You misheard him. He said Hubner was a two time <finalist> (not candidate). That's not correct, only a one-time finalist. But it still seems bizarre though, to have to make excuses for Fischer not winning EVERY game. He didn't have an "off day", he simply shouldn't be expected to score 100% all the time, even on a good day. This is exactly why Harrylime despises Fischer, by the way, and tries to shout down all conversations about him. Harry believes in a mythical Zeus-like Fischer, with godlike powers, who should win every game (as a non-chessplayer himself, Harry doesn't realize how ridiculous this is), and hates the real Fischer for not living up to the fantasy. |
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Feb-05-20
| | HeMateMe: Didnt huebner lose the final twice, both times on weird tie breakers like a roulette wheel (black/red) or a 5 minute game? |
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| Feb-05-20 | | Granny O Doul: Huebner was eliminated in the quarters in 1983 by losing the roulette spin to Smyslov. Another Candidates tiebreaker was Spassky-Portisch 1980, where the former was eliminated because his win was with White. Then there was the planned Tal-Larsen sheep bone tiebreaker in 1965 which unfortunately never came to pass. |
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| Feb-05-20 | | Petrosianic: Right, Hubner did lose a Candidates Match on a roulette wheel spin, but it was a Quarterfinal Match. Hubner's Candidates Matches were:
Loss vs. Petrosian
Win vs. Adorjan
Win vs. Portisch
Loss vs. Korchnoi
Loss vs. Smyslov
In two of those matches he walked out before it was over, and in one he lost on tiebreak. So only in two matches out of 5 did it really reach a normal conclusion. |
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Feb-10-20
 | | diceman: I doubt Fisher ever had a win in this game. He would have been slightly better after 32.Bf3, but no win. People forget, you can't manufacture wins. Huebner played well, that's why Fischer had no win. You need your opponent to make mistakes to win. |
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| Feb-10-20 | | RookFile: Sort of funny for Fischer to meet a guy even more high strung than himself. It sounds like if you looked at Huebner the wrong way he's go to pieces. |
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Apr-03-20
 | | alexmagnus: <Huebner was eliminated in the quarters in 1983 by losing the roulette spin to Smyslov. Another Candidates tiebreaker was Spassky-Portisch 1980, where the former was eliminated because his win was with White. Then there was the planned Tal-Larsen sheep bone tiebreaker in 1965 which unfortunately never came to pass.> And people complain about rapids as tiebreaker :D |
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| Jun-24-20 | | Howard: Petrosianic has overlooked huebner’s 1991 loss to Timman, which was a Candidates match. Granted, that was a rather “low profile” match, in my view. |
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| Jun-24-20 | | Olavi: <alexmagnus: <Huebner was eliminated in the quarters in 1983 by losing the roulette spin to Smyslov. Another Candidates tiebreaker was Spassky-Portisch 1980, where the former was eliminated because his win was with White. Then there was the planned Tal-Larsen sheep bone tiebreaker in 1965 which unfortunately never came to pass.>
And people complain about rapids as tiebreaker :D> I much prefer the roulette spin, or they could throw darts rather than play rapids, to make clear that it's a different game. But nowadays they even play blitz starting from a winning position for Black as tiebreaker... |
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| Nov-24-20 | | RadioBoy: Wasn't one of the factors leading Huebner to abandon the match with Petrosian the fact that Petrosian kept shaking the table? A tactic that Petrosian and also employed in his subsequent match with Korchnoi? I believe that Korchnoi first warned Petrosian about this over the board, and then complained to the arbiter? Then after Korchnoi won the next game Petrosian resigned the match claiming that Korchnoi was preventing him from playing? Cheaters always seem to accuse others of cheating... |
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