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| Jul-06-21 | | Brenin: A classic KIA, with 13 a3 a key move. |
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Jul-06-21
 | | Bishoprick: Fisher was not unbeatable. He had a minus score against Tal, and this when Tal was no longer in his prime. |
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Jul-06-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Regarding the question of how often Fischer faced a Mongolian player, he did face another one at the Palma Interzonal. If Fischer laughed at this gentleman, he might have regretted, for he did not defeat the much weaker player. Ujtumen vs Fischer, 1970 |
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| Jul-06-21 | | fabelhaft: <Fisher was not unbeatable. He had a minus score against Tal, and this when Tal was no longer in his prime> Well, Tal won the games they played in 1959 and none after that. But Fischer did in general have problems with top Soviets, 3-5 against Geller, 0-5 against Spassky up until game 3 of their match, even against Korchnoi etc. Even if I guess everyone had problems with the top Soviets. Now one can see that Fischer was another player in 1971 than a few years earlier. At the time even an American chess magazine could write that the new Elo rating system was weird, having Fischer as shared first with Spassky in 1967 even though Fischer scored bad results against the best players, and should be ranked behind Spassky. Then after his results in 1970-72 Fischer became better also the decade before those results. But he was good enough in the 60s anyway, of course. |
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| Jul-06-21 | | Viking707: While Fischer certainly had his problems with paranoia, he was right about Soviet chess, and the fear that when he played against a USSR gm, he was playing against a team, and not just the person. His one game with Botvinnik proved the point, as they sealed their moves before retiring for the night, and while Fischer slept alone, Botvinnik's team saved him from defeat, and enabled him to pull out a draw the next day. |
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Jul-06-21
 | | perfidious: Tal enjoyed a meteoric run from 1957 to 1960; when <was> his 'prime'? Before this? The above statement is ludicrous. |
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| Jul-06-21 | | Petrosianic: <Viking707>: <...the fear that when he played against a USSR gm, he was playing against a team, and not just the person. His one game with Botvinnik proved the point,> Er... you do know that his game with Botvinnik was played in a <team> event, right? The fact that the team played as a team should not be any great revelation. <...while Fischer slept alone, Botvinnik's team saved him from defeat, and enabled him to pull out a draw the next day.> Er... you do know that the use of seconds performing adjournment analysis had been common practice since the 1930's, right? I don't know if Fischer had a second at Varna, but he definitely had one at Curacao, and now you say that's unethical? You just called Fischer a cheat. Whose side are you on?? You also know (or maybe you don't), that Botvinnik didn't save the game through superior adjournment analysis, but because Fischer blundered away the win with 51...b5? |
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| Jul-07-21 | | Petrosianic: <SChesshevsky>: <Don't know. But heard Fischer once laughed in a junior tournament when his opponent played an unusual opening.> I've heard that Fischer laughed when Addison played the Center Counter Defense against him in the interzonal. But you can never tell. So many Fischer stories are nonsense. But I think Fischer himself admitted to <almost> laughing, or wanting to laugh when someone played the Wilkes-Barre Variation against him, before he looked closer and realized that it was actually trappier than it appeared at first glance. |
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Jul-07-21
 | | keypusher: According to Tal, both teams spent the night analyzing the ending, though apparently Fischer preferred to work alone. Of course, Botvinnik had much better teammates than Fischer did. |
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| Jul-07-21 | | Petrosianic: I'd be very surprised if they didn't. They'd have to be crazy not to analyze any adjourned positions they didn't regard as either hopeless or completely in the bag. Viking's claim that Fischer slept rather than use a second or even bother to analyze the position himself is a totally made up claim. |
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Oct-18-21
 | | WTHarvey: This is a gif of the queen sac 'mate in 3' position in the game: http://wtharvey.com/fisc6.gif |
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| Jan-07-23 | | Saul Goodman: That draw against Uitumen is significant, because it was the last time anyone got a draw off Bobby until the Candidates match against Petrosian. He proceeded to win 20 straight games against top players including 6-0 match wins against Taimonov and Larsen. |
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| Feb-05-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 23...gxf6 24. exf6 Kh8 25. Bf5 exf5 26. Re7 Qd5 27. Rxf7 Qxf7 28. Qxf7 Rg8 29. Re1 Raf8 30. Qa7 Ra8 31. Qxc5 Nb5 32. f7 23...gxf6 24. exf6 Kh8 25. Bf5 exf5 26. Re7 Rc7 27. Rxd7 Rxd7 28. Re1 Rg8 29. Nf3 Bb7 30. Ng5 Rxg5 31. Qxg5 23...gxf6 24. exf6 Kh8 25. Bf5 exf5 26. Re7 Rc7 27. Rxd7 Rxd7 28. Re1 Rg8 29. Nf3 Nd5 30. Qh6 Rdd8 31. Ng5 Rxg5 32. Qxg5 23...gxf6 24. exf6 Kh8 25. Bf5 exf5 26. Re7 Qxe7 27. fxe7 Kg7 28. Qg5+ Kh8 29. Nf3 Rg8 30. Qf6+ Rg7 31. Ng5 Kg8 32. Re1 Re8 33. Qxf5 Bb5 34. h5 f6 35. Qe6+ Kh8 36. h6 fxg5 37. Qf6 Rg8 38. e8=Q Bxe8 39. Rxe8 |
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| Feb-05-23 | | N.O.F. NAJDORF: 28...dxc2 29. hxg6 c1=Q+ 30. Rxc1 Rxc1+ 31. Kh2 fxg6 32. Rxh7 |
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Feb-06-23
 | | harrylime: I need to do a TOP ten of Fischer HATERS on this site again I see |
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| Feb-06-23 | | Shangri La: To seek peace and harmony is best . |
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Feb-06-23
 | | Dionysius1: So always go for the draw then, <Shangri La>? |
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| Dec-24-23 | | jerseybob: <Bishoprick: Fisher was not unbeatable. He had a minus score against Tal, and this when Tal was no longer in his prime.>(??) Fischer lost his 1959 Candidates series to Tal (4-0) when he was NOT YET in his prime. A win is a win of course, which is my attitude towards Fischer's 1970 2-0 blitz win over Tal, the games which evened their lifetime series. If they had played an early-70s match, it would've been interesting, and no predictions on the result! |
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Dec-25-23
 | | fredthebear: Fischer - Tal: https://www.chess.com/blog/MilanBgd... |
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Dec-25-23
 | | HeMateMe: Larry Evans: "My responsibilities as Fischer's second meant I would drive him to the venue." Are you sure that Fischer would listen to any other players on the USA team? |
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| Jan-04-24 | | Saul Goodman: <jerseybob: Fischer's 1970 2-0 blitz win over Tal, the games which evened their lifetime series. If they had played an early-70s match, it would've been interesting, and no predictions on the result!>. According to Chessmetrics, in September 1971, Bent Larsen (#5 in the World) and Mark Taimanov (#12 in the World) were both ranked higher than Tal. Fischer beat both Larsen and Taimanov 6-0 that year. You really think Tal would have done any better? |
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| May-10-24 | | fed31415: At move 23, Stockfish gives
23 Bf6 Qe8 24 Ne4 NxN
scoring it W=1
A weaker engine then found Black wins |
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| May-11-24 | | fed31415: 23 Bf6 Qe8 24 Ne4 Bb7 25 Bxg7 Bxe4
26 Rxe4 f5 27 ef QxQ 28 Bxe6+ Qf7
29 BxQ+ KxB 30 Re7+ Kg6 31 h5+ Kxh
32 f7 Kg6 33 f=Q RxQ 34 BxR RxB
35 Rc c4 36 dc R7 37 R8 Re 38 Kf d3
39 R5 d2 40 RxN d=Q 41 RxQ NxR
42 R6+ Kg7 43 c5 Rf 44 Rxa Ne3+
45 Ke2 Nxc 46 Rg+ Kh8 47 a4 Na3
48 R5 Nb1 49 f4 Nc3+ 50 Kd3 Nxa
51 Kc4 Nb2+ 52 Kd4 Nd1 53 c6 Rc7
54 Kc5 R8 55 Kd6 h6 56 Rh Rd+
57 Ke7 Rc 58 Kd7 Rg 59 c7 Kg
60 Re Nc3 61 c+Q RxQ 62 KxR Nd1
63 Kd7 Kf6 64 Ke8 Nf2 65 R2 Ng4
66 Rc Kg7 67 Ke7 Ne3 68 Rc5 Ng4
69 Ke6 Nf6 70 R7+ Kg6 71 f5+ Kg5
72 Rg+ Kh5 73 g4+ Nxg 74 RxN KxR
75 f6 h5 76 f7 h4 77 =Q h3 78 Ke5 Kg3
79 Ke4 Kg2 80 Qf3 Kh2 81 Qf2 Kh1
82 Kf3 h2 83 Qf1 mate |
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Dec-24-24
 | | Cosmo Fan: Whites pieces active while Black pieces are on the side line. 31...Kxh7 32.hxg6 kxg6 33.Be4 mate.
click for larger view |
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| Feb-08-25 | | Rubenchik: Robert "Perfect" Fischer! |
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