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Lajos Portisch vs Robert James Fischer
"Any Portisch a Storm" (game of the day Sep-06-2015)
Second Piatigorsky Cup (1966), Santa Monica, CA USA, rd 11, Aug-03
Nimzo-Indian Defense: Normal. Bronstein (Byrne) Variation (E45)  ·  0-1

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Sep-06-15  The Kings Domain: Interesting game. White was too optimistic in giving up his queen as his material advantage would not be sufficient once black gobbles up his queenside pawns with the help of black's queen.
Sep-06-15  optimal play: <offramp: The kibitzing is more memorable than the game.> lol

<chazsmiley has kibitzed 2 times to chessgames Jul-08-14 Portisch vs Fischer, 1966> These were <chazsmiley>'s first and only posts!

He joined the site as a premium member, asked one simple question, then realised he had inadvertently started a sh#t-fight, (which as usual involved <HeMateMe>) and the poor bastard was so dismayed he hasn't posted since!

:D

Sep-06-15
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  offramp: I love this one:

<HeMateMe: chaz--after 29. f3 black plays 29...R (either) takes Knight. White can't recapture because of the pin with the Bishop on d5. After 29. f3...Q-d2 white might still make a game of it with 30. N-g4>

Soon followed by this jobbernowling comeback
<kereru: You're making no sense at all.>

LOL!

Sep-06-15  optimal play: I like this bit...

<HeMateMe> <Black munches once the double rook coordination is gone> huh?

And this...

<kereru: @HeHateMe what position are you looking at?? White has no knight.> LOL!

Poor ol' <chazsmiley> was probably so confused gave up chess after this!

:D

Sep-06-15  morfishine: <optimal play> Poor ole <chazsmiley> I don't know whether to laugh or cry
Sep-06-15
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  thegoodanarchist: < morfishine: <optimal play> Poor ole <chazsmiley> I don't know whether to laugh or cry>

Ditto.

Sep-06-15
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  thegoodanarchist: <HeMateMe: chaz--after 29. f3 black plays 29...R (either) takes Knight. White can't recapture because of the pin with the Bishop on d5.

After 29. f3...Q-d2 white might still make a game of it with 30. N-g4 Jul-09-14 kereru: @HeHateMe what position are you looking at?? White has no knight. Jul-09-14 HeMateMe: You're right, optical illusion. Would you play 29...RxN or 29...Q-d2? Jul-09-14 kereru: You're making no sense at all.>

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Black hasn't had a rook since move 15, yet HMM keeps moving Black's imaginary rooks!

Sep-06-15  1 2 3 4: <optimal play> He was last seen on September 4th, 2015. I think he bought premium member for a reason.
Sep-06-15  lost in space:


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Why not 29. f3?

29. f3?? Qd2


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If not 30. Rxe3 here there is no other move than Rg1 to protect mate on g2

30. Rg1? Qf2


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This is mate in three. if - for example - 31. hxg5 Qh4#


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Sep-06-15  NeverAgain: Are four diagrams really necessary to illustrate a three-move sequence?
Sep-06-15  Absentee: <thegoodanarchist: I haven't laughed this hard in a long time! Black hasn't had a rook since move 15, yet HMM keeps moving Black's imaginary rooks!>

I think he just accidentally inverted White and Black in the notation. I'm more puzzled by the pin. The f4 pawn is pinned because it would expose White's King to its own Bishop?

Anyway, one of my favorites Fischer games. What follows the Queen exchange is like a clockwork symphony.

Sep-06-15
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  HeMateMe: Looks like the dog and pony show. Keep nipping at my ankles...
Sep-06-15
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  offramp: HEY, <HeMateMe>, don't worry about it. We have all done it.
Sep-06-15
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  Once: <NeverAgain: Are four diagrams really necessary to illustrate a three-move sequence?>

Given the earlier nonsense kibitzing, probably.

<chazsmiley> was/is new, so it is not a bad idea to cut him a bit of slack and be friendly.

Besides I make it a six move sequence - three for white and three for black.

Sep-08-15
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  kevin86: Black wins this one! Black is about two pawns ahead...
May-03-17  Mithrain: I didn't know the positional ideas of a Queen vs 2 Rooks position so I am grateful to have found this game!
Dec-12-20  RookFile: I think what happened here is Portisch saw that he could get his bishop to e5 and overrated it. A lot of times it is terrific there but not in this situation.
Jul-31-21  kereru: The people who told you two rooks are slightly better than a queen? They were wrong.
Jul-31-21  Omnipotent00001: "We had to die." And so ended German terror in Central Europe. Infant Daniel was born.. I was talking to a bunch of Jews online and I said, "Jewish doctors did something to my brain when I was a baby." And they responded, " It wasn't just Jewish doctors." My friend Josh said that at least they admitted it.
Jul-31-21  RookFile: <kereru: The people who told you two rooks are slightly better than a queen? They were wrong. >

Listening to Carlsen, I think that's one of his secrets. He says there are no absolutes, you have to evaluate each positon on a case by case basis. This game is a good one to show somebody who things chess is just like finding a recipe in a cooking book.

Jul-31-21
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  moronovich: <Listening to Carlsen, I think that's one of his secrets. He says there are no absolutes, you have to evaluate each positon on a case by case basis.>

Yup,that is chess in a nutshell.

Jul-31-21
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  perfidious: An approach exemplified by the Soviet School of Chess.
Jul-31-21
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  harrylime:

<<perfidious: An approach exemplified by the Soviet School of Chess.>>

Waaaaaaannnka ALERT

Jul-31-21
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  harrylime: Hort said that only one player like FISCHER comes along in a hundred years in chess.
Jul-31-21
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  harrylime: This is one of those FISCHER games which SUCKS out the HATERS and TROLLS lol lol lol
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