Jun-09-04 | | GufeldStudent: Could Fischer play 33...Qh5 instead of Rxe5? It seems that Rxh5, Rxe3, fxe3, gxh5 is good since the center pawns should fall. If he plays kg1 again, then white has a repetition at the very least or can even just exchange on e5 since now the queen can't come in through e5 (the other queen just takes it). |
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Jun-09-04 | | drukenknight: it leads to a bad endgame because the d pawn is passed and supported by another pawn on e3, it wont hold for long. Crap computer suggests 33...Qg4 w/ an edge for white. Maybe should have blockaded the pawn w/ 25 Qc7. |
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Jun-10-04 | | tyrusian: Fischer is simply great and brilliant here even though he lost the game with black. |
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Jun-10-04 | | GufeldStudent: I know he has the d pawn, but I think he cannot hold it. Basically, the rook will attack the N on d7 from d8 and then come to e8 and attack the center pawn (If the N is on f6 then it goes to c8 and attacks a2 from the second rank. The extra exchange should be more than enough to combat the ominious looking but not so dangerous passed pawn. It is protected, but its base pawn is exposed. |
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Jun-10-04 | | drukenknight: GufeldS: suggest a line and let's see what we can make of it. |
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Jun-10-04 | | MoonlitKnight: Be aware of the fact that this was a blitz game. |
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Jun-10-04 | | drukenknight: we are, we are. I agree Rxe5 seems natural and might keep the game alive for a while. I also believe that the d pawn will fall as per GS. However the result does enter into a better endgame for white, whether they could see all that or not well... |
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Jun-11-04 | | GufeldStudent: Qh5, Qxh5, Rxe3, fxe3, gxh5, Nf6+, Kf8, Nxh5, Re8, and the pawn falls. Instead of Nf6, ...e4, Kf8, with idea Re8 winning the pawn. Also Rc8, c2 is an idea. Suggest how white plays |
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Oct-07-04
 | | beatgiant: <Qh5, Qxh5, Rxe3, fxe3, gxh5, Nf6+, Kf8, Nxh5, Re8, and the pawn falls. Instead of Nf6, ...e4, Kf8, with idea Re8 winning the pawn. Also Rc8, c2 is an idea. Suggest how white plays> Simply 33...♕h5 34. ♖xh5 ♖xe3 35. fxe3 gxh5 36. ♘xf8 , and White has a winning pawn ending. |
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Oct-21-05 | | drmariogodrob: <Gufeld> More important than the promotion or elimination of the d-pawn, or even black being up the exchange, is the threat 35. Qg7#. It's immediately defendable, but it'll cost Fischer. |
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Jun-10-13 | | Mudphudder: Blitz or no blitz, this is the most non-Fischeresque game I have ever seen Fischer play. |
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Nov-01-14
 | | chancho: The game where Fischer beat Fine in an Evans is the one people like to talk about the most, but consider that Reuben Fine was no longer the player he once was (not even close) and yet he managed to win a game from a young Bobby Fischer. The man deserves some props. |
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Nov-01-14 | | RookFile: At some point he was arguably strong enough to be world champion, so he must still have been grandmaster strength at this point. |
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Nov-02-14 | | Petrosianic: <The game where Fischer beat Fine in an Evans is the one people like to talk about the most> Because that's the one in My 60 Memorable Games, and a lot of the people who gush over him the most simply aren't very familiar with his games. A lot of them know 60 Memorable, Fischer-Spassky, and a couple of key games from the 1971 Candidates, and that's about it. |
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Jun-29-16 | | RookFile: Just playing over this again - it's really an excellent game by Fine. He saw more in a 5 minute game than many would in 40/2 chess. |
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Nov-06-18 | | PJs Studio: Fine was a superb player. He unfortunately opted out of the ‘48 World Championship tournament that would’ve been a battle royal between the two best players, Fine and Keres... if not for the corrupt Stalinist regime. What a different world it was then (for chess) and how little it’s changed (politically) |
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Jan-02-19 | | HarryP: Fine's lone win against Fischer. In their other four games Fischer won with relative ease. Could Fischer have beaten Fine four out of five in Fine's heyday? No. Fine was a tough customer. My guess is that Fischer at his best could have beaten Fine at his best in a match, but it would have been close. |
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Jan-02-19
 | | harrylime: I reckon this game has to be seen in the context of the match ... Fine was a world championship candidate in the late 30's and 40's .. but he gave up chess . And against Bobby here was waaaaaaaay out of his depth. |
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