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| Jun-27-10 | | Eduardo Leon: Yes. I know that, in your 24.♗xe5 ♕xe5 25.♖xf6 line, 25...♕xf6 is replied wtih 26.♖f1. But, what after that? Giving up two rooks for a queen and getting nothing from the position doesn't look like a good deal. |
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| Jun-27-10 | | Underworld: Point is to try to push the king to the center after that, if not, then try for perpetual. I'm finally off shift now. I'M GOING TO BED!! GN all. |
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| Jun-27-10 | | gofer: The second day in a row that I have given up. What I thought and what I was going to post is below. But I found 25 ... Bxd3 at which point things
got very difficult, so I gave up and wanted to find out the answer...
...which doesn't exist. So I feel some glimmer of hope considering that ING-GERR-LUND (as is correctly pronounced) were routed, regardless of an odd refereeing decision! I can't quite believe that I am saying this, but I hope that the Argies win! Maradona is at least as enjoyable to watch at the edge of the pitch as he was on it... :-)
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Well, after much consideration, I like...
24 Rxf6+ Bxf6 (gxf6 25 Qg8+ Ke7 26 Qf7+ Kd6 27 Nf5+ Kc5 28 Rc1+ Kb5 29 d4 winning)
25 Bxf6 ...
Now we come to the sticky bit as black has lots of options, but all seem flawed... 25 ... gxf6 26 Qg8+ Ke7 27 Qf7+ Kd6 28 Nf5+ Kc5 29 Rc1+ Kb5 30 d4 winning 25 ... Rd7 26 Rf1 gxf6 (Rf1 Bxg7+ winning) 27 Rxf6+ Ke7 28 Rxe6+ Ke8 29 Rxe8+ Kxe8 30 Qg8+ Ke7 31 Qf7+ Kd6 32 Nf5+ Kc5/e5 33 d5+ winning 25 ... Re7 26 Rf1 Ke8 (Rf7 Bxg7+ winning) 27 Bxf7 Qxe7 28 Rf7 Qd6 29 e5 winning 25 ... gxh6 26 Rf1 and the discovered check is enough to win the game 25 ... Bxd3 26 Bxg7+ Nxg7 (Qxg7 Qf3+ Ke7 Ng5+ winning) 27 Qf3+ Ke7 28 Rd1 Rf8 27 Qe3 |
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| Jun-27-10 | | RandomVisitor: A final look at the suggested improvement 9.Nb3:
click for larger view Rybka 3:
<[+0.30] d=23 9...Bd6> 10.Qe2 0-0 11.a4 Rd8 12.Rd1 Nf6 13.Bg5 Bg4 14.a5 Nd7 15.Nbd2 h6 16.Nc4 hxg5 17.Nxd6 Nf6 18.Nc4 Bxf3 19.Bxf3 c5 20.a6 |
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| Jun-27-10 | | johnlspouge: Sunday (Insane)
F Olafsson vs E Eliskases, 1960 (24.?) White to play and win.
Material: Even. The Black Kf8 has 1 legal move, e7, on the same rank as Qc7. The White Rf1 pins Pf6 to Kf8. The White Ra1 can reload Rf1. The White Bb2 attacks Be5, for which Qc7 presently provides sole support. The White Bg2 requires activation. Black threatens Ba6xd3, Rd8xd3, Be5xb7, Be5xg3, and particularly Pg7xh6. The White Kg1 is secured from check, except Be5-d4+. Candidates (24.): Rxf6+, Bxe5
24.Rxf6+
(1) 24...gxf6 25.Qg8+ Ke7 26.<Qf7+> <Eduardo Leon points out that 26.Qf7+ is dominated by the game variation.> (2) 24...Bxf6 25.Bxf6
(2.1) 25...gxf6 26.Qg8+ Ke7 27.<Qf7+> <A similar domination b7 27.Qxh7+, etc., is likely.> (2.2) 25...gxh6 26.Rf1 Bxd3 27.Bxd8+ Bxf1 28.Bxc7
White has Q for R+B, but the Black Kf8 is again exposed. Other variations appear even less appealing. |
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| Jun-28-10 | | tacticalmonster: White needs to exploit the weakness of f7 and g8 squares so: candidate: 24 Rxf6+
a) 24 fxg6 25 Qg8+ Ke7 26 Qf7+ Kd6 27 Nf5+ Kc5 28 Rc1+ Kb5 29 d4! c5 ( 29 Bxd4+ 30 Nxd4+ any capture 31 Bf1+ unavoidable mate) 30 d5 c4 31 Bf1 Bxb2 32 Qxc7 Nxc7 33 Rxc4 a4 34 Rc6+ Ka5 35 b4# b) 24 Bxf6 25 Rf1 Bxd3 26 Rxf6+ gxf6 27 Qg8+ Ke7 28 Qf7+ Kd6 29 Qxf6 Rf8 ( 29 Kc5 30 Qf5+ Rd5! 31 Qf2+ Rd4 32 Nf5 Red8 33 Qe3 b5 34 Nxd4 Nxd4 35 Qxd3  ) (29 Kd7 30 Be5 Qb7 31 Nf7 Qa8 32 Bh3! Rb8 33 Ng5 ) 30 Nf5+ Kd7 (30 Kc5 31 a4 b5 32 Qxe6 Kb6  ) 31 Qe7+ Kc8 32 Qxe6+ Kb7 I don't see the solution. I give up. |
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| Jun-28-10 | | LIFE Master AJ: I liked this game so much that I am building a web page on it. I apologize ... it was originally my intent to finish it quickly ...
and post it on Sunday, the day that it was being discussed ... |
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| Jul-07-10 | | LIFE Master AJ: I am still working on the webpage ... unfortunately my computer crashed in June. (Several times.) At one point, my copy of windows became so corrupted, my HD had to be formatted. Then, my computer crashed again. I just got it out of the shop after over a week. (Seems to be working OK now.) |
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| Nov-27-10 | | LIFE Master AJ: http://www.ajschess.com/lifemastera... The web page is finished. |
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| Nov-28-10 | | 4tmac: Beautiful game. 25. ..Bxd3! 26.Qf5 Bxe4 27.Bxe4 Qxg3+ 28.Kh1 g3 29.Qg4 Qxg4 30.Nxg4 Rd4 31.hxg6 Rxe4!?(hxg6) 32.gxh7 Kf7 33.Rg1! & Black has no moves due to the threat Nh6 (the horse likes it there :) ) But the win is still a long way if you consider the B is wrong for the "a" P. Worth tossing up on your Fritz. |
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| Oct-10-13 | | LIFE Master AJ: Probably my favorite game of Fridrik Olaffson's ... ... ... |
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| Oct-11-13 | | LIFE Master AJ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i0L... My video on this game ... |
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May-23-21
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Found the first 6 moves of the game continuation and knew Black could not survive, but overlooked the best defense of 25...Bxd3. Sigh. 3.5/7 for the week. |
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| May-23-21 | | Walter Glattke: First analysis variations - what not enough for black:
A) 24.Rxf6+ Bxf6 25.Bxf6 gxh6 (gxf6 transposes to B) 26.Rf1 Rd7 27.Bd8+ Qf4 28.Rxf4+ Nxf4+ 29.Qxf4+ Rf7 30.Qxh6+ Kg8 31. Bf6+-
B) 24.-gxf6 25.Qg8+ Ke7 26.Qf7+ Kd6 27.Nf5+ Kc5 28.Bf1 c6 29.d4+ Kc6 30.d5+ Rxd5 31.Qxe8+ Rd7 32.Bxe6 Qxe6 33.Bxa6? 33.Ne7+! |
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May-23-21
 | | Messiah: This is one of the simpler Sunday puzzles. Nice finish, anyway! |
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| May-23-21 | | mel gibson: I saw the first move and I thought
it was a good bet that White could win.
Stockfish 13 says:
24. Rxf6+
(24. Rxf6+ (♖f1xf6+
♗e5xf6 ♗b2xf6 ♗a6xd3 ♕g4-f5 ♗d3xe4 ♗f6xd8+ ♗e4xf5 ♗d8xc7 g7xh6 ♗c7xb6
♔f8-e7 ♗b6xa5 c6-c5 b3-b4 ♖e8-g8 ♔g1-f2 c5xb4 ♗a5xb4+ ♔e7-f6 a3-a4 ♘e6-g5
♗b4-c3+ ♔f6-f7 ♗g2-d5+ ♗f5-e6 ♗d5-b7 ♘g5-h3+ ♔f2-f3 ♘h3-g5+ ♔f3-g2 ♗e6-h3+
♔g2-f2 ♗h3-c8 ♗b7xc8 ♖g8xc8 ♗c3-e1 ♘g5-e4+ ♔f2-f3 ♘e4-g5+ ♔f3-e3 ♖c8-e8+
♔e3-d3 ♘g5-e4 ♔d3-d4 ♘e4-g5 ♔d4-d5 ♖e8-d8+ ♔d5-c4 ♖d8-c8+ ♔c4-b5 ♘g5-e4
a4-a5 ♘e4-d6+ ♔b5-a4 ♘d6-b7 a5-a6 ♘b7-c5+ ♔a4-b4 ♘c5xa6+ ♖a1xa6 ♖c8-g8
♖a6-a7+ ♔f7-f6 ♔b4-b3 ♖g8-g5 ♗e1-c3+ ♔f6-e6) +3.63/52 1548) score for White +3.63 depth 52 |
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| May-23-21 | | malt: Got the first 3 moves,
24.R:f6+ B:f6 25.B:f6 gf6 26.Qg8+ Ke7
torn between 27.Qf7+ (or Q:h7+)...Kd6 |
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| May-23-21 | | AlicesKnight: Found the first 3-4 and then wondered how to finish .... 29.d4+ was particularly attractive (apart from opening the d-file), creating the R square-block leading to Nf7+ being answerable only with loss of the Black Q - I wonder how far back that was seen. |
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May-23-21
 | | chrisowen: Out of bounds i vest Rxf6+ garcon amalgamate i vest guv ogle it bob vest evo ovid but I guv out of bounds jekyll ovid i mink i pin art but wu woof i vest frequent guv vest goody delish i vest viz its conga rads vest dilly wet phylum frequency jazz i vest ovid add get ja duck jovial thrice its way pole its jaffas x Rxf6+ gone! |
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| May-23-21 | | 1g1yy: Even the first few were hard for me. I had the right idea, but it seemed like a tremendous amount of material sacrifice for an initiative I couldn't see through to fruition. D3 is hanging, I couldn't see how to dislodge the N on e6. The R at h8 is easy enough to bring into the attack, but I didn't see the lsb helping out much. I'm sure if I played this over the board, I could get it wrong. :D |
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| May-23-21 | | agb2002: Level 4: 13.?
Capablanca vs Bogoljubov, 1925
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May-23-21
 | | benveniste: I'm going to give myself partial credit even though I couldn't find a clear path forward after 25. ... ♗xd3 |
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| May-23-21 | | njchess: At first, I looked at White's knight, then his dark squared bishop, then the queen and though I found a lot of interesting moves, they were all predicated on some previous move which hadn't yet happened. Then, I saw the rook sac... and things got nasty! The proverbial roof caves in after that. I got the game line up to 28. ... ♔xe5 which led me to conclude that White was winning. |
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| May-23-21 | | RandomVisitor: A deeper run does not change what <mel gibson> has previously posted:
click for larger view Stockfish_21052221_x64_modern:
<62/80 13:34:25 +3.84 24.Rxf6+ Bxf6 25.Bxf6 Bxd3> 26.Qf5 Bxe4 27.Bxd8+ Bxf5 28.Bxc7 gxh6 29.Bxb6 Ke7 30.Bxa5 c5 31.b4 Rg8 32.Kf2 cxb4 33.Bxb4+ Kf6 34.a4 Ng5 |
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| May-23-21 | | mel gibson: <<62/80 13:34:25 +3.84
24.Rxf6+ Bxf6
25.Bxf6 Bxd3>
26.Qf5 Bxe4
27.Bxd8+ Bxf5
28.Bxc7 gxh6
29.Bxb6 Ke7
30.Bxa5 c5
31.b4 Rg8
32.Kf2 cxb4
33.Bxb4+ Kf6
34.a4 Ng5>
Yes Random visitor.
when I number the moves I got -
they are the same as yours:
24. Rxf6+
(24. Rxf6+ {(Rf1xf6+Be5xf6
25 Bb2xf6 Ba6xd3
26 Qg4-f5 Bd3xe4
27 Bf6xd8+ Be4xf5
28 Bd8xc7 g7xh6
29 Bc7xb6Kf8-e7
30 Bb6xa5 c6-c5
31 b3-b4 Re8-g8
32 Kg1-f2 c5xb4
33 Ba5xb4+ Ke7-f6
34 a3-a4 Ne6-g5 |
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