| Nov-20-02 | | bishop: The Black King Bishop did not distinguish himself in this game. |
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| Nov-21-02 | | drukenknight: looks like he messed up at the end of the game, what about 31...Qc2 trying to mate the K? |
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| Nov-21-02 | | drukenknight: this is interesting what about 27...Qxd5 ? |
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| Dec-24-04 | | Madman99X: If 31... Qc2 then
32. gxh7 Kf7
32. Qf5+ Qxf5
33. Rxf5 K(somewhere out of check) H8=Q
and black is in bad shape.
or if
32. ... Nxh7 then
33. Rg1+ exposes black's king to all four of white's pieces, and white chases black down with ease. (Unless I missed something. I always miss something.) |
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| Dec-24-04 | | Madman99X: On the side, how highly was Mikhail Chigorin esteemed during his time? He has a defense named after him, but what I've seen from him hasn't really impressed me all that much. |
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| Dec-24-04 | | akiba82: Chigorin was highly esteemed in his time. He was the second best player in the world at one point. He lost two world championship matches to Steinitz, one very narrowly. His best tournament was undoubtedly Hastings 1895, in terms of the quality of his games, although Pillsbury edged him in the crosstable. |
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| Dec-24-04 | | akiba82: Chigorin was known as a great attacker, specializing in aggressive openings like the King's Gambit, Evans Gambit and the Two Knights Defense. But he was also a fine endgame player and foreshadowed the hypermodern movement in his championing of the Old Indian Defense. |
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| Dec-24-04 | | Madman99X: That will teach me to look at my history. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | keypusher: Pretty manly stuff from Burn, whom I always thought of as a very cautious chessplayer. Pretty suicidal stuff from Chigorin, though that's not such a surprise. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | paladin at large: <keypusher> Yes, what is the point of 18......Bxc3? Black needs a minor piece near his exposed king (one would think) and taking the white knight simply puts the white queen on the dangerous diagonal. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Calli: 18...Bxc3 because otherwise White plays Rxh5 and the attack rolls on. Chigorin is lost already, but he finds a way to complicate with 18...Bxc3 and the followup pawn sacifice 20...d5! Its really his best chance. |
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| Apr-07-06 | | paladin at large: Thanks <Calli>, I see it better now. |
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| Feb-28-08 | | gazzamega: I think that 10.... Nfe8 was better than 10.... e6 with the possible continuation:
10.... Nfe8 11.g5 e6 12.Bd2 Bxc3+ 13.Bxc3
e5! 14.Bd3 Ng7 15.Rg1 f5! 16.gxf6 (if 16.exf5 Nxf5 17.fxe5 Nd4!)16.... Qxf6 17.f5 Qh4+ 18.Kd1 Nh5 19.Rg4! Qe7 20.Bd2
Nf4 21.Bc2 Rad8 22.h4 Kh8 and black is ok |
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| Mar-01-08 | | gazzamega: I think that after 10....Nfe8 11.g4 e6 12.Bd2 e5! is good for black |
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Mar-01-08
 | | Pawn and Two: Burn could have quickly won by playing 29.g6!. Black is lost after either 29...Qxd2 30.Qf5 Qc2+ 31.Qxc2 Rxc2 32.gxh7+, or 29...Qe4+ 30.Ka1 Nxg6 31.Rxh7 Re8 32.Rh8+. Instead, Burn erred and played 29.Bc3??. The tournament book then recommended Black should play 29...b4!. Fritz's evaluation indicates after 29...b4! 30.Be5 Rd8 31.Qf1 Rd7 32.b3, Black has an equal game with either 32...Re4 or 32...Qe4+. |
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| Mar-01-08 | | Calli: Maybe even earlier 27.g6 Nxg6 28.f5 because if 28...Rc4 29.Qxc4! bxc4 30.fxg6 |
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Mar-02-08
| | Pawn and Two: <Calli> I agree, your line of 27.g6 Nxg6 28.f5 is clearly winning for White. At move 27, Fritz indicated the best continuation was: (4.46) (20 ply) 27.g6 Qxg6 28.Qf3 Rc4+ 29.Bc3 b4 30.Rg5 bxc3 31.bxc3. Fritz's 2nd choice for White at move 27 was the game continuation: (3.61) (20 ply) 27.Qh3 Rc4+ 28.Kb1 Qxd5, and now instead of Burn's error 29.Bc3??, he should have played the winning 29.g6!. A review by Fritz indicates Burn had a strong and probable winning advantage by move 16. Burn kept this advantage from move 16 until move 22. However, his move 22.exd5? was much inferior to 22.f5!. If Chigorin had played 22...Nb6!, he would have had some chances to survive after the likely continuation of 23.Rdh1 Rad8. After 22...Rfe8? 23.Bf3, I believe White has a winning advantage, which he maintained until his serious error 29.Bc3??. Fortunately for Burn, Chigorin quickly returned the favor by playing 29...Rd8??. Time trouble may have been a factor, as the time control was at move 30. |
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Mar-02-08
 | | IMlday: The tendency at the time was to consider Chigorin's 'eccentric' openings to be unsound. However the real error was simply mistiming ..Bg4 by playing it before white castled. So White gets an automatic and powerful pawnstorm and wins clearly. Much later Black's move order was corrected with 7..e6 first leading to quite playable counter-attacking chances. A top example is Keres vs Spassky, 1965 The evolution of opening theory aside, Chigorin may have been fooled by Burn's tranquil nature into assuming he would not 'go for the kill' when the opportunity arose. |
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| Mar-02-08 | | Calli: Richard Forster points out an even earlier win 23.Bxh5! Nxh5 24.Rdh1 Nxf4 25.Rxf4 Qxd5 26.Qh3 Nf8 27.g6 h5 28.Rf5 is winning for instance 28...Qxa2 29.Qxh5 Qa1+ 30.Kc2 Qa4+ 31.Kb1 Qe4+ 32.Kc1 or 28...Re5 29.Qxh5 Qxh1+ 30.Qxh1 Rxf5 31.Bc3 Nxg6 32.Qxb7 |
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| Dec-12-08 | | dramas79: I recall that in a book, Kotov says that at some point Chigorin was in a "overwhelmingly superior" position but made a mistake (long after after he had given up his DSB) and lost quickly. |
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Jul-04-20
 | | MissScarlett: <Burn on the Fourth of July> |
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Jul-04-23
 | | FSR: Shocking to see a King's Indian, especially between two leading players of the day, in 1898. |
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