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| Aug-16-07 | | geigermuller: <sledgehammer> you are right, there must be a mistake, it should be 24. ... Nxd1, and black is a piece ahead, winning after a remarkable combination starting with an exchange sacrifice 19. ... Rxe5 |
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| Oct-23-09 | | Everett: Bronstein takes advantage of White's unprotected rook with the combo starting on move 19. |
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Sep-12-18
 | | HeMateMe: Bechuk-a-lou-bop/
He's my baby/ |
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| Sep-12-18 | | andrewjsacks: As usual, Bronstein's creativity is shown even in the opening. |
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Sep-12-18
| | HeMateMe: I miss the puns, there's no creativity in the game comment any more. |
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Sep-12-18
 | | piltdown man: <HeMateMe> Agreed! The puns have been almost robotic lately. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | newzild: I don't miss the puns. They were usually awful. |
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Sep-12-18
 | | perfidious: <newzild>, quite true. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | catlover: The combination that Bronstein unleashed really was pleasing (although probably not to Bebchuck). |
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| Sep-12-18 | | TheTamale: Horrible puns are more entertaining than what we got with this game, in my opinion. |
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Sep-12-18
| | HeMateMe: the games of the day haven't been that good either. Seeing an average master beaten by a clever trap in the opening isn't as good as seeing games played by Kasprov, Carlsen, etc. against top tier competition. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | Sally Simpson: There is just no 'pleasing' some
people.
An instructive combination (and pleasing)
click for larger viewBronstein spots the loose Rook on d1 and with a Black Knight on f4 you should always be looking for Queen to the g-file tricks. So he shunned a healthy pawn 19...Qxd5 (probably never even look at it) and from there the seed was planted and the combo flowered. I thought the rather unimaginative pun, it could be applied to practically any game with a combo, might have come from a comment by Bronstein himself in 'Sorcerer' or 'Improviser' but the game is not there. (did not bother checking 'Open Games' as this was a French.) https://www.365chess.com/game.php?g...
Has White playing 25.d6 and then 0-1. |
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Sep-12-18
 | | beatgiant: But what kind of pun could uniquely reflect this game? <Knight man speaks with forked tongue>? (There's a knight fork, same as lots of other games.) <Evgeni's tragic finale>? (There's a player named Evgeni, same as lots of other games. How many kibitzers are also fans of Russian opera to even get the reference?) Maybe it's just not sustainable to come up with good puns about chess games day in and day out. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | wtpy: Don't miss the puns, but don't understand the criticism of this game; it is not a titanic struggle but has a nice tactical motif. You can't go wrong with Bronstein as long as the game is decisive--same with Tal and Stein among others. |
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| Sep-12-18 | | Sally Simpson: Hi beatgiant,
"But what kind of pun could uniquely reflect this game?" HeMateMe's 'Bechuk-a-lou-bop' then 'hop hop hop.' The Knight hopping from f4-h3-f2-d1.
(I'll get my coat.) |
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| Sep-12-18 | | catlover: <Sally Simpson: Hi beatgiant,
"But what kind of pun could uniquely reflect this game?" HeMateMe's 'Bechuk-a-lou-bop' then 'hop hop hop.' The Knight hopping from f4-h3-f2-d1.
(I'll get my coat.)>
Lol! Yep. We're a tough audience. |
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Sep-12-18
 | | AylerKupp: This GOTD's title is just that, not a pun. And not all GOTD titles are puns, and often, like D Byrne vs Fischer, 1956 and Robert E Byrne vs Fischer, 1963, they are just that, titles. In order for the GOTD's title to be a pun it must be "a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings.". As good a definition as any. FWIW, this one is my favorite: Yanofsky vs J Therien, 1947. So now we have to decide whether we prefer bad puns, clever puns but given to a mediocre game selected just to be able to give it a clever pun, or game titles like this one which are insipid. Degustibus non disputandum est. But, no, I can't think of any clever or even half-clever pun to "uniquely reflect this game". |
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Sep-12-18
| | beatgiant: <Sally Simpson>
Great try, but A Kovacevic vs E Bebchuk, 1995 also features a 3-move knight hop (Ne5-c4-e3-xf5) and has the added pun potential with copacetic/Kovacevic. And the moral of the story is, "There is nothing new under the pun." (Cue the "Aesop and Son" closing music) |
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| Sep-12-18 | | Sally Simpson: Hi beatgiant,
Nope. This one was played 21 years before the 1995 game. This is hop hop hop game. That one can be the hop skip and jump game. ---
Masters playing live games used to wonder what the punters where saying about their moves in the chat rooms. Now it's:
"I wonder what pun this game will get?" |
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| Sep-12-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
19.Qf1 b5 20.Re1 Rxe1 21.Nxe1 Qxd5 22.Nef3 Nc6 23.Ra1 Re8 24.Re1 Rxe1 25.Qxe1 Ne6 26.h3 h6 27.Nf1 Qd8 28.Ne3 Nexd4 29.Nxd4 Nxd4 30.Qd1 Qf6 31.Qd3 Qe5 32.h4 a4 33.bxa4 bxa4
- + (-1.49) Depth: 20
19.Qf1 b5
- + (-1.60 --) Depth: 21 |
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| Sep-12-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
18.Bxd7 Qxd7 19.Qf1 b5 20.Re1 Rxe1 21.Nxe1 Qxd5 22.g3 Ne6 23.Nef3 Nc6 24.Ra1 Rd8 25.Qd3 Nexd4 26.Rc1 h6 27.Kg2 f5 28.Qe3 Kh7 29.Qd3 Rd7 30.Qe3 g6 31.Qd3 Kg7 32.Qe3 a4 33.bxa4 bxa4 34.Nc4
- + (-1.63) Depth: 22 |
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| Sep-12-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
17.Bxd7 Qxd7 18.Ne5 Nxe5 19.dxe5 Rxe5 20.Qc3 Rxd5 21.Qxb4 h6 22.Nc4 axb4 23.Rxa8+ Kh7 24.Nb6 Qc6 25.Nxd5 Qxd5 26.Raa1 Kg6 27.Rfd1 Qe5 28.Rab1 Qc3 29.Re1 Qc2 30.Rec1 Qa2 31.Ra1 Qb2 32.Rab1 Qd2 33.Ra1 f6 34.Rc4 Qb2 35.Rg4+ Kh5
= / + (-0.38) Depth: 22 |
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| Sep-12-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
15.g3 Nb4 16.Qc3 a5 17.Bxd7 Qxd7 18.Raa1 b6 19.Rae1 Qg4 20.Kh1 Rac8 21.Rxe8+ Rxe8 22.Re1 Rxe1+ 23.Nxe1 dxc4 24.Qxc4 Qd7 25.Kg2 Ne7 26.Nef3 Ned5 27.Ne4 f6 28.Nc3 Kf7 29.Nxd5 Nxd5 30.Nd2 b5 31.Qd3 Nb4 32.Qxh7 Qxd4
= (-0.18) Depth: 24 |
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| Sep-12-18 | | Dijon15: Genie submits to Sorcerer |
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| Sep-12-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
13.Re1 Re8 14.Qd1 a6 15.Bd3 Nb4 16.Nf1 Nxd3 17.Qxd3 Bf5 18.Qd2 Qd6 19.Raa1 Nc6 20.Ne3 Be4 21.Ng5 Bg6 22.Nf3 h6 23.Nh4 Be4 24.f3 Bh7 25.Nef5 Qd7 26.Qf4 Rad8 27.c3
= (0.00) Depth: 23
13.Re1 Re8
= (-0.08 --) Depth: 24
13.c3 Re8 14.Qd1 a6 15.Bd3 Bf5 16.Qb1 Qd6 17.Ra1 Qg6 18.Bxf5 Nxf5 19.Qb2 Rac8 20.Rfe1 h6 21.h3 Qf6 22.Nf1 Qd6 23.Qb1 Rxe1 24.Qxe1 f6 25.Qd2 Re8 26.Re1
= (-0.04) Depth: 24 |
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