| Nov-29-03 | | mjk: Fritz7 thinks 13...a5 is the best move; Michael Stean in "Simple Chess" thinks "Black dare not hit back with 13...a5 ...." What do you think? |
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| Nov-29-03 | | Bitzovich: I'd tend to agree with Fritz ))) |
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| Nov-29-03 | | PinkPanther: I have to admit I was a bit amused seeing Iron Mike playing the King's Indian Attack. |
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Nov-29-03
 | | technical draw: Overall black just played poorly. |
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Nov-30-03
 | | Chessical: 13...a5 14.bxa5 Bxa5 15.Ba3! is embarassing for Black. Black needed to play a5 earlier. |
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| Aug-09-04 | | Whitehat1963: Gotta love 35...Nxf5. It LOOKED good ... at least for a second or so. It looked like a move I would have made. |
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| Jul-15-07 | | engmaster: 12) b4 a space gaining move
15) C5 the decisive mistake, white controls C4 as an outpost. Also white has d5 as the other outpost. Black has no protected outposts. 17) Nc4 white occupies the outpost
18) Bg5 a sneeky move! If 18) ...,Qxg5, 19)Nxd6, Rb8 20) Bc4! 26) a6, the exchanges do not free up black's position, white creates another outpost on C6. The black bishop is now fatally weak |
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Jul-27-07
 | | plang: Botvinnik makes it look so easy here, after black gives up his light squared bishop early in the game Botvinnik spends the rest of the game weakening black's light squares. Botvinnik recommended 9..Be7 as well as 11..a5.
15..c5 is a positional error that leads to his bishop being shut out of the game. After 18 Bg5!..f6 the way Botinnik infiltrates the a2-g8 diagonal is masterful. 34..f5 is a blunder which speeds the end of the game. |
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| Jul-27-07 | | Calli: Black is Gyorgy Szilagyi. This game is a duplicate of
Botvinnik vs G Szilagyi, 1966 |
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| Jul-29-07 | | RandomVisitor: 14...a5 is an improvement for black. Does it equalize? 1: Mikhail Botvinnik - Gyorgy Szilagyi, Netherlands It, Amsterdam 1966
click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 2.3.2a mp up:
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1. (0.09): 15.bxa5 Bxa5 16.Kg2 Qc5 17.Bb2 Nb6 18.Nb3 Qc4 19.Rfb1 Nbd7 20.Rd1 Bc7 21.a5 h6 2. (-0.06): 15.Rb1 axb4 16.Rxb4 Qe6 17.Kg2 Rdb8 18.Be2 Ba5 19.Rb1 Nc5 20.Bc4 Qe8 21.Nf3 b5 3. (-0.10): 15.Nc4 axb4 16.cxb4 Bd4 17.Rb1 Qe6 18.Kg2 b5 19.axb5 cxb5 20.Na5 Nb6 21.Bg5 Nc4 |
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| Jul-29-07 | | engmaster: Positionally I believe black's game is lost. In response to 14... a5, I would look at 16) Ba3, followed by Nc4. White activates the bishop and creates danger for black along the key a3 to f8 diagonal. |
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| Jul-29-07 | | RandomVisitor: <engmaster>Well, let's look at the computer results after 14...a5 <15.Ba3> axb4:
click for larger view (22-ply)
1. (-0.22): 16.cxb4 Bd4 17.Rab1 Nf8 18.a5 Ne6 19.h4 Nc7 20.Nc4 Nb5 21.Bc1 Bc3 22.Qb3 Rd4 2. (-0.30): 16.Bxb4 Bc5 17.Rfb1 Bxb4 18.cxb4 Nf8 19.Bg2 Ne6 20.Nf3 c5 21.bxc5 Nxc5 22.Rb5 Nd3 Black is able to reposition his pieces and it seems that positionally he has achieved equality. |
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| Aug-02-07 | | engmaster: Actually if you look at the analysis there are many variations in which black can go wrong. I do not see a plan for black. From a practical over the board perspective I find less than 0.75 to be pretty meaningless. I would agree from a computer perspective you are right. |
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Aug-02-07
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: Funny, I thought Black should have played ...a5 on his 13th move, and failing that, White should have played 14.a5. Playing both 12.b4 and 13.a4 might have been a bit of an over-reach; 12.a4, keeping b4 in reserve and threatening a5, might have been better. Or perhaps 12.b4 with the idea of c3-c4-c5 and Nd2-c4. Skepticism recommended: remember who wrote this and remember who played White. |
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Aug-02-07
| | plang: Botvinnik felt that 15..c5 was a major positional error allowing blacks bishop to be shut out of play after 16 b5. After 18 Bg5! blacks white square weakness is fatal. 34..f5? was a blunder but black was lost anyway at that point. |
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| Aug-06-07 | | engmaster: I agree with Stean, if you run the computer analysis you see a lot of possible variations for black after whites Ba3, most of which favor white. So whilst black can equalise if he plays the top or 2nd best move, he goes wrong on the next 7 or so candidate moves |
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| May-11-12 | | raydot: Botvinnik turns Black's bishop into a lamppost. Doesn't have to capture it because he completely cripples it. Very cool game! |
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| Aug-21-13 | | whiteshark: re Stean
After <27 Kg2> 
click for larger view "White’s control of the position is so great that he could inscribe his initials on the board with his king if he wanted." Michael Stean, Simple Chess |
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Jan-18-14
 | | Domdaniel: It's very easy for White in the end. Between moves 27 and 31 Botvinnik reorganizes his battery on the a2/g8 diagonal, and once his Queen reaches f7 it's over.
Black arguably had chances much earlier but failed to take them. |
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| Jul-28-14 | | Doniez: I had to think for several minutes to appreciate the beauty of move 18.Bg5. What a great move! |
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| Jul-03-19 | | Chesgambit: Best move maybe
31.Bxh6 ( random move ) |
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Oct-26-20
 | | kingscrusher: Strategic crush example by Stean in Simple chess |
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Oct-26-20
 | | perfidious: This was typical of a good many games played at even international level in those days, featuring planless play by Black when facing the KIA. |
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