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NN vs Joseph Henry Blackburne
"Old Kentucky" (game of the day Oct-22-2005)
Casual game (1884), London ENG
Italian Game: Jerome Gambit (C50)  ·  0-1

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May-25-17  zanzibar: <Paarhufer: <z: so was it from his book w/Graham?> I thought that you are a Google books user ... >

Thanks for looking that game up.

Yes, I have a downloaded version of the book, but was too lazy/tired to look it up.

Sometimes I'm on late at night, and mostly working off one source - and so, not wanting to get too distracted can only leave a brief note on a sideline avenue.

I should point out that Harding, in his Blackburne book (p404), says this:

<Mr. Blackburne's Games of Chess was published in the fall. He did not do himself justice. The games in the book are not presented chronologically, but arranged firstly by opening and by theme (serious contests; then offhand games, odds games and simuls: then brilliant finishes, and finally blindfold games). This selection and arrangement provides no real sense of Blackburne's mighty struggles against his contemporaries. Annotations are skimpy. Several games are assigned to incorrect years or events, and the finishes of some were altered or truncated.>

This caveat should be borne in mind when using the book as a source. Some collaboration would be welcome, as is always the case anyways.

(But I'll concede that Fine is more likely wrong here.)

May-25-17  zanzibar: I should also add this Harding statement from p405:

<To what extent Blackburne himself was responsible for his book's structure and factual errors is debatable. The involvement of a contributor largely unknown in the chess world [i.e. Graham] was unfortunate.>

I wonder if there's an errata somewhere out there?

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Nov-04-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Korora: The Immortal Patzer lost Immortal Game style.
Nov-04-18  Jean Defuse: ...

Tim Harding about this game:

<Early English Jerome Gambit Games>

https://www.ecforum.org.uk/viewtopi...

...

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Dec-31-18  Jean Defuse: ...

<Mr M v Blackburne, London, 1884>

Harding:

That was "Mr M" v Blackburne, first published in the Illustrated London News on 10 May 1884 (probably played at the Divan when Blackburne was convalescing).

There is also floating around a very similar game Milner-Blackburne supposedly played in Manchester(ending 10 h3 Bxh3 11 Qxa8 Qg4 12 g3 Qxg3+ 13 Kh1 Qg2#) but I have no primary source for that.

see: http://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/20...

...

Dec-31-18
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  MissScarlett: I've made the switch from 1880 to 1884. It would be nice to have the facility of appending <c.> for <circa> for games of uncertain dates.
Feb-15-19  thisisasign: <Jean Defuse> I was looking for more information on the Jerome (Kentucky?) Gambit, so that link is much appreciated.
Oct-03-19
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  Messiah: Nice game, I play like this in the pub. With both colours.
Jan-20-20  perrypawnpusher: zanzibar writes "Fine uses a position from this game (p088.d135), after Black's 12th move, but omits the White queen on a8." Which book by Fine, please? I checked in his BCE, with no luck. Thanks.
Mar-17-20  gambitfan: Wrong ECO number

C51 4 b4 Evans Gambit

It should be C50

May-30-20  TheaN: This game is the only example of 6....g6 as defense to the Jerome/Kentucky Gambit which is today's OotD.

Interestingly, the fast SF9 analysis has trouble with certain incredibly tactical lines (which typically computers never do). The biggest example is this one on a certain points: 10.Qd8 Bh3 11.Qxc7+ Kf8 12.Qxb7 Qg4 13.e5? d5 -+.

It already goes wrong on 10....Bh3 which evaluates +4 after 11.Qxb7 Nd7? (why?) and corrects itself to +0.8 after 11....Kf8. Next slip up is +5 after 12.Qxb7 Qg4 13.e5?? Ne4?? (again, why?!). After 13....d5, all of a sudden does it go to -10 which is probably why this line is rather famous. I don't get how Stockfish can misjudge an attack this greatly.

Whereas I'm confident 7....d6 <is> a mistake (at least ±) White's in a minefield, especially if even one of the strongest computers of the day can't make everything from it on 18ply.

Aug-27-21  rwbean: 10. ♕d8 ♗h3 11. ♕xc7+ ♔f8 then...

12. gxh3 ♕xh3 13. d4 or

12. ♕xb7 ♗xg2 13. ♕xa8+ ♘e8 14. ♔xg2 ♕g4+ 15. ♔h1 or

12 ♕xb7 ♗xg2 13. ♔xg2 ♕g4+ 14. ♔h1 or

12. ♕xb7 ♕g4 13. ♕xa8+ ♔f7 14. ♕b7+

all draws ...

...

so 9. d4! was the winning move, 9. O-O only draws. ... and 7... ♕e7 safely wins

Sep-16-21  Nina Myers: That's the way the cookie crumbles!
Oct-01-21  VerySeriousExpert: The trivial move 9.d4! was winning. Rick Kennedy wrote about it long ago, he was right.
Oct-01-21  VerySeriousExpert: Wikipedia's article on the Jerome gambit should be updated strongly in a lot of places! And I can't understand why has Wikipedia chosen THIS GAME as the "illustrative" one for its article. Thus, both opponents have made blunders during this game. Moreover, J. H. Blackburne isn't the strongest player who has ever played the Jerome gambit or against it. Thus, for example, GM Hikaru Nakamura has played several games with the Jerome gambit and against it without his blunders after 4.Bxf7+. The following won game against GM Dmitrij Kollars https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... is well-known due to GM Nakamura's several videos, first of all.
Oct-02-21  VerySeriousExpert: In this game GM Nakamura - GM Kollars (2020, August 28) after 6.Qh5+ Ke6 White played 7.Qf5+. Now we know that 7.Qh3+! is much stronger: https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... , https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... etc.
Oct-30-21  VerySeriousExpert: The recent very beautiful game Bukayev - Golshev, 2021 ( https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... , https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... ), shows the force of 7.Qh3+!. Black's play was not bad, but White's long attack caused Black's tiredness and missing opponent's winning combination.
Jul-15-22  VerySeriousExpert: Attention! Probably, the 1st tournament GM - GM Jerome gambit game in chess history was played this year: https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... . Why is this notable fact absent in Wikipedia?
Aug-13-22  YoungEd: NN probably boasted after the game to friends: "Well, Blackburne clobbered me, of course, but at least I prevented him from castling!" Even a weak moral victory like this would suffice for a patzer like me.
Aug-13-22  KH4RM4: This beautiful mate is named after Blackburne: https://www.chess.com/blog/zibbit/c...
Aug-22-22  VerySeriousExpert: I would like to add that the force of 6.Qh5+ Ke6 7.Qh3+! is shown bright by the following analyses: https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2...
Sep-05-22  VerySeriousExpert: The way 6.d4 is often considered as an important alternative to 6.Qh5+, but the recent game Bukayev - Karpov, 2022, with Yury V. Bukayev's comments to it ( https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... ) show that White's success is less probable.
Sep-25-22  VerySeriousExpert: Jerome Gambit isn't 4.Bxf7+ ("standard system of JG") only. It is also a large family of deferred systems, analogously to other openings. Thus, for example, Queen's Gambit isn't 2.c4 only: 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 is also the same Queen's Gambit. We can ask, what is a theoretical strength of Jerome Gambit? We should consider the strongest of these systems to answer this question correctly: https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... . It's Yury Bukayev's research on it. He shows that Jerome Gambit is theoretically enough strong gambit!
Sep-25-22
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  perfidious: <Expert....Thus, for example, Queen's Gambit isn't 2.c4 only: 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 is also the same Queen's Gambit....>

Not quite 'the same' Queen's Gambit, as there are yet many roads this can take.

Cue <fredthebore> to weigh in with yet another pronouncement on how I understand nothing as he plays stalker....

Oct-18-22  VerySeriousExpert: Was Hikaru Nakamura right in his words about the standard system of the Jerome gambit? Yury V. Bukayev has made a sensational analysis of it: https://jeromegambit.blogspot.com/2... .

Mr. perfidious, you try to refute that 2.c4 and 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.c4 are different systems of the SAME Queen's gambit (its standard system and one of its deferred systems). Why do you try? In any case, your words about "many roads" are probably hasty, you aren't right.

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