chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing
Bird / Dobell vs Wilhelm Steinitz
London - (1866), London ENG
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense (C65)  ·  1-0

ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 1,039 more games of Steinitz
sac: 11.Qe4 PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Feb-08-03  dippel: This is just unbelievable! This is an amazing game! Bird mates his opponent just like Paul Morphy used to do.
Feb-09-03  ughaibu: It's a nice game but nothing like Morphy. Bird overlooks/rejects a quicker simpler mate. I would suspect that this game was played at a minute each but I think it was before clocks were in use. The play is very interesting and demonstrates the player's personalities yet at the same time the moves can be easily criticised, as such it is a good game to illustrate why human chess is incomparably better than computer chess.
Nov-19-03
Premium Chessgames Member
  Honza Cervenka: Yes, Bird and Dobell missed 15.exd7++ Kf8 16.Qe8+ Qxe8 17.dxe8=Q/R#, but 15.Qxh7 wins easily too. They could play also 14.fxg7 Rg8 15.e6, which seems to be more precise way to victory than immediate 14.e6. The text move allows to 14...0-0, which probably cannot save the black, but it can prolong his resistence for several moves.
May-22-04  fred lennox: According to two references I have, one being the Games of Stienitz edited by Pickard, this game was played without Dobell.
Jul-29-04  ughaibu: Aw1988: Here it is.
Jul-29-04  aw1988: Excellent game. I was wondering why they "didn't have it" :)
Aug-18-04  AdrianP: 15. exf7+ also leads to a forced mate, but nowhere near as simple as 15. exd7++

The final position in the game is very striking, though. Even if it weren't mate, Black would hardly be able to move a piece.

Feb-14-05  morphyrulez: Nice game! I'd like to try if i could mate the same way as this game does. :) The last 5 moves was played almost to perfection! This is one of the games that proves that position is more important than material...
Feb-14-05  aw1988: This would go well in Benjamin Lau's picturesque position collection if he were still around.
Apr-11-08  Knight13: What the hell this is the Third time I've seen this game with Bird playing against/with different players!! Which one is the GENUINE ONE!!??
May-20-09  WhiteRook48: Stenitz got checkmated?!
Oct-30-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  Domdaniel: And Homer Nodded.
Apr-01-11  SeanBurdine: according to my reference book, The 1000 Best Short Games of Chess [by I. Chernev], it was Bird alone vs. Steinitz. What a spectacular mate!
Jun-05-12
Premium Chessgames Member
  scutigera: This database lists a game with an identical score, Bird vs Steinitz, 1867. I personally find it difficult to believe that Steinitz could forget losing a game like this in only one year, facing the same line, played by the same master (I'm pretty sure Dobell was the Robin figure in this game).

NOTE: Create an account today to post replies and access other powerful features which are available only to registered users. Becoming a member is free, anonymous, and takes less than 1 minute! If you already have a username, then simply login login under your username now to join the discussion.

Please observe our posting guidelines:

  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, or profane language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate, or gibberish posts.
  3. No vitriolic or systematic personal attacks against other members.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No cyberstalking or malicious posting of negative or private information (doxing/doxxing) of members.
  6. No trolling.
  7. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by moderators, create a false impression of consensus or support, or stage conversations, is prohibited.
  8. Do not degrade Chessgames or any of it's staff/volunteers.

Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.

Blow the Whistle

See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a moderator.


NOTE: Please keep all discussion on-topic. This forum is for this specific game only. To discuss chess or this site in general, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors.
All moderator actions taken are ultimately at the sole discretion of the administration.

This game is type: CLASSICAL. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

<This page contains Editor Notes. Click here to read them.>

Featured in the Following Game Collections[what is this?]
World champions lose miniatures 1.
by ughaibu
Bird misses mate in three
from When masters overlook mate by capanegra
Too Many Cooks?
by biglo
Game collection: ruy
by zentovic
morphyrulez's favorite games
by morphyrulez
e4addict's favorite games
by e4addict
Game 96 (GTOC omits Dobell's name)
from The Golden Treasury of Chess Part 1(Games 1-250) by biglo
No Castle: Loser
from Castle by c65win
Great Games: Best Miniatures
by DocUnk
"A humorous example of decapitation."
from "Teach Yourself Chess" by Gerald Abrahams - the by Operation Mindcrime
zumakal blunders archivadas5
by zumakal
"Teach Yourself Chess" by Gerald Abrahams
from 5 Pins Ins and Outs, ECO C 50s, 60s-90s by fredthebear
Game 67
from Manual of Chess (Lasker) by Qindarka
Two Against one? That's Not Fair!......
from king bee's favorite games by king bee
19 moves
from Chess Miniatures, Collection II by wwall
Game 96 (GTOC omits Dobell's name)
from 19 and Under League C Only Excludes Fredthebear by fredthebear

Home | About | Login | Logout | F.A.Q. | Profile | Preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | New Kibitzing | Chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | Privacy Notice | Contact Us

Copyright 2001-2023, Chessgames Services LLC