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| Sep-21-05 | | Saruman: I solved this in 7 seconds including 19.-Be3+. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | snowie1: No, 17.Qa5 don't fail <zabbura2002>, as ..Kb2 18.Rxb3+..axb3 19.Rb8 and the lady will now visit a4 or, 18...Kxb3 19.Rb8+ and same result. It's too late from this position_for white to recover without black making some blunder. (oversight for masters) |
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| Sep-21-05 | | YouRang: <YouRang> <Perhaps 14. Bc3 is better.> You idiot! 14. Bc3 loses the knight to 14...Bxg1. Black is already screwed before move 14! |
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| Sep-21-05 | | kevin86: White's decision to long castle was a dubious one-with black's queen and bishop focusing on his b-pawn. The sac is obvious;the rook mate on b1 is inescapable. The final check can be answered by four interpositions and a capture,but mate follows on b1. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Simplification: <jahhaj> and <artemis> Thanks. I missed that the knight was pinned. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Oops, I made some spelling mistakes, this is what my kibitz was supposed to look like: "17...Qxb3 was indead an easy one to find, but I'm not sure if all of us thought of the brilliant move 19...Be3+!
I didn't see that move, because I overlooked Black's rook neatly positioned on d8! By the way, I had a look at this game with Crafty, and White could have saved this game with 17.g4!" |
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| Sep-21-05 | | TheSlid: <Saruman> I know - "sweet as a nut" - a lovely finish! |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Koster: Games like this give 0-0-0 a bad reputation. |
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| Sep-21-05 | | Iron Dragon: One problem I always have with puzzles is that I am wrong with what the other side will do. I can't foresee my own moves if I screw up what the other guy does. What the heck is the point of 19.Be1??? |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <Iron Dragon> 19. Be1 prevents immediate mate (19... Rb1) by providing a flight square (d2) for the White Queen. 19... Be3+! takes away that square (R on d8) leading to mate. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <Emperor Atahualpa> Above, it was suggested by <the beginner> that
17 g4 Qa5
18 Kb2 Bc5
19 gxf5 Rxb3
would be good for Black. some analysis with chesslab.com's engine seems to confirm this:
20 Ka1 Rdb8
21 Be1 Qb6
with winning attack (according to the comp.)
This line seems very complicated though. What does Crafty say to these moves? |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: A bit more to my last -- according still to the comp, white's attack is winning after 22. axb3 Qxb3; the main line is actually given as 22. Qe4 Rb2 23. Qb4 Rxb4 24. cxb4 Bxg1 winning. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | The beginner: <psmith>
I think you meant black is winning ?
22 axb3 ..Qxb3
The threat is ..Qa4+ Qa2 ..Qxd1+ Qb1 Qxb1 mate.
White can try some desperate things like
23 Rd8+ ..Rxd8
Again black will win after Qa3+ Rb8+ Qa2+ Rd8+ forcing the king out in the open. where it will be mated. |
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| Sep-22-05 | | psmith: <The beginner> "I think you meant black is winning?" Of course -- it was late when I typed that! |
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| Nov-05-07 | | nimh: Rybka 2.4 mp, AMD X2 2.01GHz, 10 min per move, threshold 0.33. Rosanes 4 mistakes:
10.d3 -1.77 (10.Nxf6+ -0.63)
14.0-0-0 -2.52 (14.Nf3 -0.84)
15.c3 -6.22 (15.Bc3 -2.52)
17.Nf3 #5 (17.g4 -3.04)
Anderssen 2 mistakes:
11...Nxe4 -0.76 (11...Bf5 -1.77)
16...Red8 -3.04 (16...Qa5 -6.10) |
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| Jul-13-09 | | Bitme: yes nimh I'd play this amazing 16.Qa5 that makes the force winning which would go like this 17.Kb2-Bc5 18.b4-Rxb4! 19.cxb4-Bd4+ 20.Kb3-Be6+ 21.Kc2-Qxa2 and then black forces mate within few moves.
amazing play from Anderssen could foresee that and make all of us enjoy his games till now |
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| Oct-03-09 | | kasparvez: Guns and Rosanes |
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| Sep-10-10 | | sevenseaman: Bizarrely entertaining! These muscular convulsions are also a part of chess. |
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| Nov-20-14 | | yureesystem: Anderssen is the man, a master of attack. |
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| Nov-03-16 | | Petrosianic: <nimh>: <Anderssen 2 mistakes:
16...Red8 -3.04 (16...Qa5 -6.10)>
Wrong. A move that leads to a sure and certain win cannot be considered a mistake. Blind reliance on engine evals is itself a mistake. |
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Nov-03-16
 | | perfidious: <Petrosianic....Blind reliance on engine evals is itself a mistake.> Same for blindly trusting in others' annotations or comments on games. My own included. |
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| Jan-12-19 | | sea7kenp: I need to correct a Game Link, left Sept 7, 2003 by <AussiePatzer>: Keres vs Botvinnik, 1941 This link works. (The original may have been a Duplicate). |
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| May-27-19 | | Marcelo Bruno: A battle between two chessmasters that were mathematicians, too! |
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| Apr-21-21 | | Achillesguitar: I have made an analysis video of this game, the link is https://youtu.be/cvnbQVWABt4 |
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Sep-28-21
 | | fredthebear: When played to completion (20.QxBe3 Rb1# 0-1.), this is an example of Boden's Mate w/the rook. It's Mate 6A, p. 93 in "The Art of the Checkmate" by Georges Renaud and Victor Kahn. The queen sacrifice opens lines to allow the rook to give mate on the open b-file, as opposed to the usual second bishop on the flank. It should be pointed out that Boden's Mate w/the rook resembles an Opera Mate (back rank support mate), but it's off-center against a castled king. This is Deadly Checkmate #14 & #15 in "How to Beat Your Dad at Chess" by Murray Chandler. * Wikipedia has a nice history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boden... * Edward Winter goes beyond: https://www.chesshistory.com/winter... |
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sac: 17...Qxb3