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| Feb-18-04 | | Whitehat1963: Too obvious. I never even considered g8!! |
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| Feb-18-04 | | Reisswolf: I don't get it. What the heck is up with Kramnik's 28. Bxa5? Surely he can see that the a-pawn is attacked twice and defended twice. And it is certainly not hard to look two moves ahead to see that White has no compensation in the final position. What a blunder! |
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| Feb-18-04 | | ajit: Does look like a blunder! But, I think there is no way to prevent the victory march of the a pawn. Nb3 further facilitates this march |
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Feb-18-04
 | | tamar: <Reisswolf> Kramnik explained this howler somewhere. When Anand played 25... a5 Kramnik saw that he could not take it because 26. ♘xa5 ♗xa5 27. ♗xa5 ♖c5 forks the ♗ and ♘ He played 26. ♗a6 ♖a8 27 ♗b5 instead, and when Anand played 27...♘c5, he simply forgot the black ♖ was now on a8. |
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| Feb-18-04 | | drukenknight: hmmm, I dunno. that 26 NxP line you mention; doesnt 28 Rd8+ follow and then there is a potential smother with the N going to f7....Did he really only look two moves deep into all this? |
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Feb-18-04
| | tamar: <drukenknight> No mate because of ♗xf7
My guess is that Kramnik was looking way beyond two moves deep in an attempt to stop the dangerous a♙ and forgot the board position. |
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| Feb-18-04 | | drukenknight: yeah I see the B there but then white puts his B on g4 and black brings the R down to c1+ and then white blocks that w/ the R and then.... |
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Feb-18-04
| | tamar: How about ♖x♘e5 instead of black checking on c1? |
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| Feb-18-04 | | Phoenix: Easy to make gross errors when it is a Blindfold game...but yeah, this was pretty bad! |
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| Feb-18-04 | | Reisswolf: Folks, my mistake! I take it all back!
I did not notice that this was a blindfold game. (And I am not even blindfolded.) In that case, one should not blame Kramnik for the error. These things can happen. On the other hand, it is absolutely amazing how these two can play so well for so many moves without sight of the board. Absolutely amazing! |
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| Feb-18-04 | | drukenknight: gee. stop teasing us with this stuff. |
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| Dec-11-04 | | acirce: Kramnik comments on this game in Kramnik/Damsky: <Kramnik. My Life and Games> and starts after Black's 25th: <I cannot claim that White has a won position, but Black's problems are quite serious. I decided first to drive the rook away from its active position.> 26.Ra6 Ra8
<Later many reckoned that I had forgotten where the black king was - at h8 instead of g8. In fact I extremely rarely lose sight of where a piece is. The problem is that on the computer screen (which displays an empty board and the opponent's last move) the letters 'a' and 'e' are rather similar. And after glancing briefly at the screen, I decided that Anand had played 26..Re8 (after 26..Ra8 I was planning 27.Bb7 and then the capture on a5).> 27.Bb5
<Setting up a powerful battery against... the phantom rook at e8. At this point I was very happy with my position: the ending seemed unpleasant and very difficult for Black. Suspicion set in a move later.> 27..Nc5 28.Bxa5 Bxa5 29.Nxa5 Rxa5
<The rook appeared from nowhere, it all became clear to me, and I had to resign.> |
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| Mar-14-06 | | waddayaplay: the game description should say it is a blindfold game. then i wouldn't have analyzed it. |
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Mar-14-06
 | | AgentRgent: <waddayaplay: the game description should say it is a blindfold game. then i wouldn't have analyzed it.> Ummm Look under Site where it says: 6th Amber BLIND, Monaco |
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| Mar-14-06 | | waddayaplay: Thanks for replying.
I use the Text Only version so all I see is
"Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand
05 1997
Queen's Gambit Accepted, Classical (D27) · 0-1 "
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| Mar-14-06 | | alexandrovm: <<Setting up a powerful battery against... the phantom rook at e8. At this point I was very happy with my position: the ending seemed unpleasant and very difficult for Black. Suspicion set in a move later.> 27..Nc5 28.Bxa5 Bxa5 29.Nxa5 Rxa5
<The rook appeared from nowhere, it all became clear to me, and I had to resign.> > lol! that's call bad luck... |
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| Jun-16-08 | | Abejorral: Deep drawmnik blundering again. |
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| Jun-16-08 | | lorker: <abejorral> what the hell is this " deep drawnik " crap. first the game was not a draw and kramnik clearly did not play for one. second it was a blindfold game and clearly kramnik would not commit a blunder like that in another game. and what is this blundering again nonsense? kramnik in general is known to blunder far less than anyone else so comments like that are just sad. |
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| Jun-16-08 | | Voltaic: hey, wait a minute, this is confusing, it wasn't supposed acirce was Kramnik's defender and <lorker> uh, well the rest of the jobs? don't get me wrong, i also think the drawnik thing has become annoying... if not something worst |
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| Jun-16-08 | | lorker: <Voltaic> uhh.. no i never said anything negative about kramnik. unlike with carlsen kramniks games really have beauty and ive always thougth he was one of the best of all times... |
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| Jun-25-08 | | Abejorral: <what the hell is this " deep drawnik " crap> You´re right, Kramnik the draw master sounds better. |
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| Jun-25-08 | | lorker: <Abejorral> I am not sure if you can comprehend what the 0-1 at the top means, but most people would tell you that it does not mean that the game was drawn. So why would you make a post about Kramnik being a draw master on a decisive game? Are you actually as stupid as you sound from your posts? Or are you just trying to piss people off? |
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| Jun-25-08 | | littlefermat: <lorker> He's a troll. No use talking to him. Check out his other posts. Just put the guy on ignore. |
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| Jun-28-08 | | Hector Maluy: <Abejorral> I don't know if Vladimir draws too much, but I can tell you that he can play very strong against the computer (Deep Fritz). He won 2 games against Deep Fritz in 2002 (I think at that time it would have been Fritz 8, let me know if I'm wrong please). I know that right now there is a Fritz 11, but believe me, if I ever see any guy or girl who beats Fritz 8 , I would ask him/her for an autograph. |
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| Jun-28-08 | | Hector Maluy: I found a game.
Kramnik vs Deep Fritz, 2002
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