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| Apr-24-17 | | lost in space: Yes, also 15. Nxc6 wins |
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| Apr-24-17 | | jith1207: Royal checkmate! |
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| Apr-24-17 | | saturn2: Nf5 wins the queen |
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| Apr-24-17 | | stst: N-sac..
15.Nf5 will make Black very uncomfortable...
(A).......QxQ, 16.Nh6 fork and mate.
(B).......exN, 16.QxQ ... rest easy
(C).......Qc1+ meaningless, 16.RxQ... |
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| Apr-24-17 | | diagonalley: <aporia> ... agreed... i went that way too! |
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Apr-24-17
 | | agb2002: White is one pawn down.
Black threatens Qxd4.
The black queen is defenseless and Nh6 would be mate. Therefore, 15.Nf5: A) 15... Qxg4 16.Nh6#.
B) 15... Nxe5 16.Ne7(h6)#.
C) 15... exf5 16.Qxc4 + - [Q vs n]. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | AlicesKnight: Moving the N to threaten mate and attack the Black Q is the answer; 15.Nf5. The position after move 8 is quoted anonymously in Abrahams' "Chess Mind" - it's unclear if he saw it as a game or an analysis. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | leRevenant: I close ranks with APORIA & DIAGONALLEY. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | cocker: FRITZ prefers 15 Nxc6 |
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| Apr-24-17 | | morfishine: <15.Nf5> |
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| Apr-24-17 | | whiteshark: <15.Nf5!!>, and that's it. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | zb2cr: I went the 15. Nxc6 route as well. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | mel gibson: The computer says a different move but
it's the same idea.
15. Nxc6
15. Nf5 (15. Nxc6 (♘d4xc6 ♕c4xc6 ♕g4-f4 ♕c6-c3 ♖a1-f1 ♕c3xe5
♗f6xe5 f7-f6 ♗e5xf6 ♗c8-d7 ♕f4-c7 ♖f8xf6 ♕c7xd7 ♖a8-f8 ♕d7xb7 ♖f8-f7 ♕b7-b5
♔g8-g7 f2-f3 ♖f6-f5 ♕b5-b2+ e6-e5 ♖f1-c1 ♖f7-e7 ♖c1-c5 ♔g7-g8 ♕b2-b4 ♔g8-g7
♕b4-b5 ♔g7-f6 ♔g1-f2) +10.45/15 89)
score +10.45 depth 15 |
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Apr-24-17
 | | xela: There's a cute variation earlier in the game (thanks, Stockfish!): instead of 11 Kf1, the move 11 Qd2 is nearly as good, because black can't accept the double rook sacrifice: 11 ... Qxa1+ 12 Ke2 Qxh1 13 Nxe6 with a winning position. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | malt: 15.Nf5 and 16.Nh6# |
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| Apr-24-17 | | Walter Glattke: To the smothered mate of lost in space I found, that 15.Qg5 always lose after 15.-Nxd4, so with 16.Re1 Ne2+ 17.Rxe2 Qxe2 18.g3 Qh5 or maybe 16.g3 Nf3+ or
16.h3 Ne2+ as shown, but still 16.-Ne6
wins then. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | Walter Glattke: Oh, sorry, 15.Qg5? Nxd4 16.Qh6 Nf5!
16.h3 h6 17.Qxh6 Nf5 18.Qd2 Kh7, of course Ne6 is impossible. |
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Apr-24-17
| | patzer2: Here's my look at today's Monday puzzle position (15. ?) and game with the opening explorer and Deep Fritz 15: <1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Bb4+ 5. Nc3 dxc4 6. e4 c5 7. Bxc4 cxd4 8. Nxd4 Qa5> A slightly better alternative IMO is the current popular move 8...Bxc6 = as in the drawn games A Giri vs Aronian, 2015 and
A Giri vs Harikrishna, 2017. <9. Bxf6 Bxc3+ 10. bxc3 Qxc3+ 11. Kf1 Qxc4+> The popular alternative and my preference here is 11...gxf6 as in Black's win in Hracek vs Wang Hao, 2013. <12. Kg1 O-O?> Black is probably lost after this move. Instead, the second player can stay in the fight with 12... Bd7 13. Rc1 Qb4 14. Bxg7 Rg8 15. Bf6 Rg6 16. a3 Qa5 17. Nb3 Qb6 18. Bh4 Na6 19. h3 Bc6 20. Nd2 Qd4 = to  . Another playable alternative here is 12...Nd7 as in the drawn correspondence game Z Caputto vs S Letic, 1962. <13. Qg4 g6 14. e5 Nc6??> This blunder loses the Queen after 15. Nf5! Black can put up more resistance with 14...Qc5, but is
probably still losing after 15...Qc5 15. Qf4 Re8 16. Nb5 Nd7 17. Rc1 Qf8 18. Nc7 Nxf6 19. exf6 e5 20. Qa4 Bf5 21. Nxe8 Rxe8 22. h4  to  . <15. Nf5! 1-0> This
solves the Monday Apr 24, 2017 chessgames.com puzzle as White wins the Queen or mates next move. White can also win with 15. Nxc6 as 15...Qxc6 is met 16. Qf4 Qc3 17. Rc1 Qb2 18. Qh6 Qxc1+ 19. Qxc1 (#9, Deep Fritz 15 @ 31 depth). |
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| Apr-24-17 | | leRevenant: <cocker: FRITZ prefers 15 Nxc6>
Well then FRITZ is stupid, for a machine. |
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| Apr-24-17 | | crwynn: Alekhine plays a very modern-looking opening in today's puzzle. |
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| Apr-25-17 | | cocker: <leRevenant> Don't understand your comment. 15 Nf5 wins Black's queen for a knight. 15 Nxc6 wins Black's queen for nothing, and finishes game quicker. |
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| May-06-17 | | Tiggler: After 15. Nxc6 it is mate in 14.
1. d4 d5 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Bb4+ 5. Nc3 dxc4 6. e4 c5 7. Bxc4 cxd4
8. Nxd4 Qa5 9. Bxf6 Bxc3+ 10. bxc3 Qxc3+ 11. Kf1 Qxc4+ 12. Kg1 O-O 13. Qg4
g6 14. e5 Nc6 15. Nf5 (15. Nxc6 bxc6 (15. .. Qc5 16. Qg5 Re8 17. Ne7+ Qxe7
18. Bxe7 Rxe7 (18. .. h6 19. Qxh6 Rxe7 20. h4 Bd7 21. h5 g5 22. Qxg5+
+M8) 19. Qxe7 b5 20. h4 +M10) (15. .. Qxc6 16. Qg5 +M14 Qc3 17. Rd1
Qxe5 18. Bxe5 f6 19. Bxf6 Bd7 20. Rxd7 Rf7 21. Rxf7 Kxf7 22. Bb2 +M8)
(15. .. h5 16. Ne7+ Kh7 17. Qxc4 Bd7 (17. .. b5 18. Qc7 +M12) 18. g4 Rac8
(18. .. Rg8 19. Nxg8 Rxg8 20. Qb4 +M7) 19. Qd3 +M11) (15. .. Re8 16.
Qxc4 +M10) (15. .. Qf1+ 16. Rxf1 h6 (16. .. h5 17. Ne7+ Kh7 18. Qg5 Bd7
19. g4 Rg8 20. Nxg8 Rxg8 21. f3 +M8) 17. Ne7+ Kh7 18. h4 h5 19. Qa4 b5
(19. .. Kh6 20. Nxg6 +M8) 20. Qc2 Bd7 21. Rd1 Be8 22. g4 +M8) (15. ..
h6 16. Ne7+ Kh7 17. Qxc4 Bd7 (17. .. b5 18. Qc7 +M10) 18. Rd1 Bc6 (18. ..
Be8 19. h4 h5 20. Qb4 Bc6 21. Nxc6 bxc6 22. Rd7 +M8) 19. Nxg6 Rg8 20. Nf4
Bxg2 21. Nxg2 Rac8 22. Qe4+ Rg6 23. Kf1 +M7) 16. Qxc4 +m14 h6 (16. ..
h5 17. g4 +M13 Ba6 (17. .. Rb8 18. gxh5 c5 (18. .. a5 19. Qg4 +M7) 19.
Qg4 Rb4 20. f4 +M8) 18. Qxa6 +M12 Kh7 (18. .. h4 19. Qc4 +M8) (18. ..
c5 19. gxh5 +M10) (18. .. g5 19. h4 +M5) (18. .. Rab8 19. Qd3 +M10)
(18. .. Rad8 19. gxh5 +M11) 19. gxh5 gxh5 (19. .. Kh6 20. Qd3 +M10)
(19. .. Rg8 20. hxg6+ +M9) 20. Qd3+ +M10) 17. h4 +m13 Ba6 (17. .. h5
18. g4 +M12 Ba6 19. Qxa6 +M11 Rad8 (19. .. Kh7 20. gxh5 +M10) 20.
gxh5 Rd4 +M10 (20. .. Kh7 21. Bxd8 +M9) 21. hxg6 fxg6 22. Qb7 Rf7 23.
Qc8+ Rf8 24. Qxe6+ Kh7 25. Qe7+ Rf7 26. Qxf7+ Kh6 27. h5 Rg4+ 28. Kf1 Rg1+
29. Kxg1 c5 30. hxg6#) (17. .. Rb8 18. h5 +M12 g5 (18. .. Ba6 19. Qxa6 g5
20. f4 +M9 Rb4 (20. .. Rb5 21. fxg5 +M8) 21. fxg5 +M8) 19. f4 a5 20.
fxg5 Rb4 21. Qd3 Ba6 +M9) (17. .. Bb7 18. h5 +M12 g5 19. f4 c5 (19. ..
Rfd8 20. fxg5 c5 21. g6 +M8) 20. fxg5 Rad8 21. g6 Rd2 22. Rh2 +M8) (17.
.. a5 +M12 18. Qc1 Kh7 19. h5 g5 20. f4 +M9) (17. .. a6 18. Qf4 Kh7 19.
Be7 Rg8 (19. .. Bd7 20. Rd1 +M10 Rg8 21. Rxd7 h5 22. Bd8 +M8) (19. ..
Bb7 20. Rd1 +M10 c5 21. Bxf8 Rxf8 22. Rd7 Be4 23. Rxf7+ +M7) 20. h5
+M10 g5 21. Qe4+ Kh8 22. Bf6+ Rg7 23. Rd1 +M7) (17. .. Kh7 18. Rh3 h5
(18. .. Ba6 19. Qxa6 +M10 Rab8 (19. .. h5 20. Rg3 +M9) 20. h5 +M9)
19. Qxc6 Ba6 20. Qxa6 Rac8 21. Rg3 Rc7 (21. .. Rg8 22. Qb7 +M7) 22. Qd6
Rfc8 23. Rd1 +M7) (17. .. Bd7 18. Rd1 Rab8 (18. .. Be8 19. h5 +M8) 19.
Rxd7 c5 (19. .. h5 20. Rh3 +M8) (19. .. a5 20. Kh2 +M8) (19. .. a6 20.
Kh2 +M8) 20. h5 +M8) 18. Qxa6 +m12 Rab8 (18. .. Rac8 19. Rb1 +M12
(19. Rh3 h5 20. Rb1 +M9) 19. .. h5 20. Rh3 +M9) (18. .. Rfb8 19. Rh3
+M9) (18. .. c5 19. Rh3 +M10) (18. .. Rae8 19. Rd1 +M10 Rb8 (19. ..
h5 20. Rh3 +M8) 20. Rh3 +M9) 19. Rc1 +M11 Rb6 (19. .. Rbc8 20. Rh3
+M9) (19. .. c5 20. Rh3 +M10 Rb6 (20. .. Kh7 21. h5 +M8) 21. Qxa7
+M9 Rbb8 22. Rg3 +M8) (19. .. Rfc8 20. Rh3 +M9 Rd8 (20. .. Kh7 21. h5
+M7) (20. .. Rf8 21. Rg3 +M8) (20. .. Re8 21. Rg3 +M8) 21. Bxd8
+M8) 20. Qxa7 +M10 Rbb8 (20. .. Rb2 21. h5 +M9) (20. .. Rb4 21. h5
+M9) 21. h5 +M9 g5 22. Rxc6 +M8) 1-0 |
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| May-07-17 | | Tiggler: Mate in 15, I should have said. By move 30. |
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| Oct-04-18 | | deSitter: This is a sad case of Alekhine faking it.
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/... |
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Oct-05-18
 | | beatgiant: <deSitter>
The source you cited says not that "Alekhine faked this game" but rather that Alekhine gave the line in this game in his notes to Alekhine / Frank vs Bogoljubov / Pfaffenroth, 1941, and Morán later incorrectly published this as an actual game. |
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