| Aug-18-05 | | AgentRgent: Doesn't 52...Qc3+ 53. Kd1 Bb3+ win more easily? |
|
| Aug-18-05 | | paul dorion: <agentRgent> Given that Bogo continued on to that point , one has to suspect mutual time trouble. (Or bad game score) |
|
| Oct-19-05 | | olaf4lena: I must be missing something. Why 29 ... gxf4, and why 30 Bg3? What is the threat that allows black to ignore and forces white to delay 30 NxN? |
|
| Oct-19-05 | | Averageguy: <olaf4lena>29...gxf4 is a zwischenzug, winning a pawn while threatening 30...Rxg2+, and also threatening Nxe5, winning a pawn and attacking the queen. |
|
| Apr-18-07 | | Gilmoy: 29 .. gxf4 threatens a windmill: 30 .. Rxg2+ 31 Kh1 Rg3+ and Black mates: 32 Rf3 Rxf3! 33 Qxf3[] Bxf3+ 34 Kg1 Qg7+ 35 K(f1,f2) Qg2#. The quiet move 31 .. Qh5 is also crushing (32 Bg3 fxg3 or 32 h3 Rg3+ 33 Kh2[] Rxd3). 30 Bg3 blocks g, and also doubles on f4 for 31 Rxf4. The B is safe because f4 is pinned vertically. Black simplifies immediately with Qxf8 so that he can sidestep the oncoming Rook pressure, and maintain initiative without ceding any counterplay. (30 .. Nxe5? 31 Qe2 and Black still hasn't recovered his piece.) |
|
| Apr-26-07 | | JMJ565X: how doesn't black's 5th move c5 lose a pawn any1????????? |
|
Apr-26-07
 | | Phony Benoni: <JMJ565X> If 5.dxc5, Black first plays 5...e6! protecting his d-pawn, then captures on c5 or e5 depending on what White does. |
|
| Apr-27-07 | | JMJ565X: yea looks safe now..i always play e6 first cuz im scared haha, thanx phony |
|
| May-02-07 | | JMJ565X: what if 5. dxc5 Nxc5 then whites queen and knight both attack blacks d pawn while only blacks queen defends???? |
|
| Dec-14-07 | | staplerman: What is wrong with 5...cxd4? That was the natural continuation after ...c5. I'm not questioning Alekhine-he was world champion, and I'm not- but some of his moves look pretty funky. |
|
| Apr-01-08 | | Knight13: <staplerman> It's just not good. One of those chess sense things that are a bit hard to explain. 5...cxd4 6. Nxd5 followed by Qxd4 Black is put on passitivity, though he can get out of it but will not have as comfortable a game as Alekhine played here. |
|
| Apr-27-11 | | Lovuschka: The book is nicely annotated in Tartakower's book "Die hypermoderne Schachpartie" that shows the knockout everyone should find these days.
click for larger view17.Sge4!! and White wins. |
|
| Sep-06-11 | | heuristic: <17.Nge4!! and White wins>
how?
17...Qf7 18.Nf6+ Kd8 and then what?
17...dxe4 18.Nxe4 Qf7 19.Nf6+ Kd8 and then what? |
|
| Sep-10-11 | | Lovuschka: While the first line is clearly won (if White wants no experiments, he can play 18.Sxc5 with a pawn more), my Fritz only finds a draw in the second line: 17...dxe4 18.Sxe4 Qf7 19.Sf6+ Kd8 20.Rfd1+ Kc7 21.bxc4 Rb8 22.Qf3 Rb7 23.Rab1 Kb8 24.Qa3 Ka7 25.Bxc5 Bxc5+ 26.Qxc5 Qc7 27.Qd4 Qxc4 28.Qf2 Qc7 29.Rd6...
click for larger view
29...Rd8!! 30.c4 Rxd6 31.exd6 Qxc4 32.d7 Bxd7 33.Sxd7...
click for larger view
33...Qd3!! 34.Rxb6 Qd1+ 35.Qf1 Qd4+ 36.Qf2 Qd1+ draws. So Tartakower was wrong, it seems. |
|
Sep-10-11
 | | perfidious: <Lovuschka: ....So Tartakower was wrong, it seems.> He remains an outstanding player, writer and analyst. Even the greatest were by no means perfect. |
|
| Sep-10-11 | | aliejin: "my Fritz only finds a draw in the second line..."
I think we never have to take the analysis of a software, as definitive ....
(except uncomplicated cases ,
but chess is complicated ! )
Could it be that in 5 years,
a new version of the same software
throw another result ...
"the knockout everyone should find these days." There was no any
knockout to find ... |
|
| Dec-20-22 | | Olavi: <perfidious: <Lovuschka: ....So Tartakower was wrong, it seems.>
He remains an outstanding player, writer and analyst. Even the greatest were by no means perfect.> Tartakower was not wrong, Lovuschka quoted him falsely. Tarta wrote that 17.Nge4 must be played to keep the attack and that 17.Nf3 shows misassessment, White did'n seem to understand that he is getting worse. Tartakower did not claim a win with 17.Nge4. |
|
Kibitzing
