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Alexander Alekhine vs Milan Vidmar
London (1922), London ENG, rd 7, Aug-08
Queen's Gambit Declined: Semi-Tarrasch Defense (D40)  ·  1/2-1/2

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Apr-22-05  aw1988: Draw? Black has a very good position.
Apr-22-05
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  tpstar: alekhine + vidmar = have kramni-idle

I'm too sexy for Milan ...

Apr-23-05
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  beatgiant: <aw1988>
<Draw? Black has a very good position.>

Why not? It looks drawish to me after 21. Qf3, preparing 22. Rad1 trading off the rooks.

Apr-23-05  aw1988: It seems to me that Qf3 and Rad1 leaves white's queenside under attack, but I could of course be wrong; I will have to investigate sometime.
Jun-14-13  phil6875: <aw1988> It is a very drawish position, White has many choices, but I don't think 21. Qf3 should be one of them. A couple of sample lines.

1. 21. Rac1 Rd2 22. Re2 Qd5 23. Nf3 Rd1+ 24. Rxd1 Qxd1+ 25. Re1 Qd6 =

2. 21. Re2 Qb6 22. Rae1 Rd1 23. Kh2 Rxe1 24. Rxe1 Qd6 25. Kg1 Qd2 =

3. 21. Ng6 Rd4 22. Rac1 Qc7 23. Ne5 R8d5 24. Ng6 Rd3 25. Qe4 Qd6 =

Jun-14-13
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  beatgiant: <phil6875>
Why don't you think 21. Qf3 should be played? Did you find a non-drawish reply, and if so, what is it?
Jun-14-13  RookFile: How does play continue after 21. Qf3 Qc7?
Jun-14-13
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  perfidious: In Alekhine vs L Kussman, 1924, White employed Maroczy's idea of 7.Bxf6 to good effect.
Jun-18-13
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  beatgiant: <RookFile>
21. Qf3 Qc7 22. Nc4 Rd3 23. Qe4 Bxc4 24. Qxc4 Rd2 25. Re2 still looks pretty drawish to me. Am I missing some subtle way for Black to get an advantage here?
Jul-03-13  phil6875: Maybe I wasn't clear, I was merely saying that 21. Qf3 was not the best of many choices, I wasn't saying it was a non-drawish reply.
Jul-03-13
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  beatgiant: <phil6875>
Understood, but the question remains as to <why> you don't think Qf3 is the best. It appears to be no more and no less drawish than the other options.

At least, I think we all agree now that it was reasonable to agree to a draw here, notwithstanding <aw1988>'s remarks above.

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