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| Apr-24-04 | | notsodeepthought: Ehm - 30 Qh3 and Qd3 both lose to Qe1 check (which is either mate or forces the exchange of queens followed by loss of the rook in g5). Moves that may win include 30 Re5 Qf8 31 Rh5. But there's nothing that's nearly as good as Alekhine's choice. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | iron maiden: <While 29. Rxg5 makes for a nice solution to today's puzzle and the followup 30. Rg8+ (to 29...Qe8) is the quickest mate (30...Kxg8 31. Qg3+ King moves 32. Qg7# or 30...Qxg8 31. Qxh6+ Qh7 32. Qh7#), the alternatives 30. Qd3+- or 30. Qh3+- also win decisively.> Actually, 30. Qh3?? gets mated by Qe1#, and after 30. Qd3?? Black again plays 30...Qe1+, trades queens to remove the mating threat, and then takes the g5-rook. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | iron maiden: After 29...Qe8, White could still probably win by trading off the queens and then moving the g5-rook to secure his two-pawn advantage, but of course 30. Rg8+! is a prettier and less complicated win. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | Dudley: 7. c5 is a move I usually avoid on principle in the queens gambit because it removes tension in the center. But, perhaps it is the right move when black plays an early a6. Anyway its hard to second guess Alekhine in the QGD since he was one who wroted the book on that opening. Does anyone have any thoughts on the move c5 in the Queen's Gambit? I have noticed a lot of white players seem to like this move but I still don't believe it is a very good way to play the opening> |
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Apr-24-04
 | | patzer2: I tried to analyze too late in the morning and realized before retiring for the evening that I had allowed a mate in one with 30. Qh3?? Qe8# and that 30. Qd3?? could not be much better after 30...Qe1+ 31. Qf1 Qxf1+ 32. Kxf1 hxg5  So Alekhine's 30. Rg8+! is essential to make this a quick and decisive win for White, with notsodeepthought's 30. Re5!? being a reasonable alternative. |
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Apr-24-04
 | | Benzol: Is this B S Vainshtein, David Bronstein's friend? |
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| Apr-24-04 | | Minor Piece Activity: Great puzzle. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | karik: I would prefer 29.Qd3 continuing the short but powerful Queen moves on the 3rd rank. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | rochade18: I agree with karik. You all wiped out the idea of 30.Qd3?? and 30.Qh3 which is ridiculous. But what to do against the powerful 29.Qd3 (if Qg8 then Rxg5!) it was patzter who first mentioned this alternative but he must have meant 29.Qd3. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | necrosis: i don't understand, Rxg5 can be met by 29. ... Ne6 can it not? if 30. Rg8+ then 30 ... Kxg8 and i can't see 31. Qg3 leading anywhere.. but i could be wrong. i would have said that the winning move was 29. Qd3 as rochade18 and karik have already pointed out |
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| Apr-24-04 | | ajit: <necrosis>If 29...Ne6 30.Rg7 Nxg7(forced) 31.Qxh6+ Kg8 32.Qh7# |
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| Apr-24-04 | | ChessPraxis: <To ajit and necrosis> After 29. ... Ne6 30. Rg7 Black can also play 30. ... Qxg7 31. fxg7+ which is clearly won for White but I don't see an immediate mate. 29. ... Ne6 30. Rh5 is similar but leaves the pawn at f6 for more mating possibilities. But karik's move 29. Qd3 leads to a direct mate so I vote for it. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | WMD: <Is this B S Vainshtein, David Bronstein's friend?> Presumably not. His initial is given as N. |
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Apr-24-04
 | | kevin86: Funny,I noticed another blunder:
30...♔xg8 31 ♕h6??? ♕e1*-ouch,and double ouch!! |
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| Apr-24-04 | | Lawrence: ALL ENGINES GO for 29.Qd3, mate in 6. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | WMD: Thomas the Tank Engine goes CHOO-CHOO. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | ruylopez900: This is definitely a good puzzle, but maybe chessgames.com needs to find ones NOT based on nice sacrifices. We (or at least I) immediately look at how I can sac the major pieces =D. Hope this doesn't transfer too much into my tournament play =D. |
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| Apr-24-04 | | Vischer: 29.♕d3 ♕g8 then what? <Lawrence> |
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| Apr-24-04 | | somethingstrong: <Vischer> If I may answer for <Lawrence>: 29.Qd3 Qg8 30. Rxg5, and mate is unstoppable |
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Apr-24-04
| | patzer2: <Kevin 86> Actually that blunder was a typo. I intended to type if 30...Kxg8 <31. Qg3+> King moves 32. Qg7#. If 30...hxg5, then 31. Qh3+ Kg8 32. Qh7+ Kf8 33. Qh8# |
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| Apr-24-04 | | metsajb: alekhine had a great plan to force mate |
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Apr-25-04
| | patzer2: Actually, it's if 29...hxg5, then 30. Qh3+ Kg8 31. Qh7#. If 29...Ne6, then 30. Rg7 Qxg7 31. fxg7+ Kxg7 would indeed have been a much longer win than the strong 29. Qd3! suggested by Karik and analyzed above. However, Fritz 8 indicates that after 29...Ne6, White has mate in 13 after 30. Rh5!!Qg7 31. fxg7+ etc. So, maybe Alekhine intentionally overlook a shorter mate with 29. Qd3!!,because he found the prospects after 29. Rxg5! Ne6 30. Rh5! to also be a clear win with more interesting combinational (e.g. brilliancy prize) prospects. |
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Apr-26-04
| | Benzol: <WMD> Thanks for the note. |
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Nov-29-11
 | | LIFE Master AJ: Nice example of f4-f5. |
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| May-25-12 | | xombie: Note the moves provoking weaknesses. Qd3 inducing g6, allowing f4-f5. |
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