| Sep-03-04 | | InspiredByMorphy: Great game by both players, but Im particularly impressed with Blackburnes play. He plays one of my favorite replys to the Ruy lopez - the Birds defense, and wins the exchange but cant seal the win. It seems to me that Blackburne needed a plan of action on move 18. In the game 18. ...b6 saves blacks d4 pawn, but it allows whites queen access to the pinned knight on e7. Perhaps a better plan may have been 18. ...Kg7 19.Nxd4 Re8 Another interesting note in this game is Alekhine's 7.f4 At first I thought it was a good move, but the f pawn doesent move again the whole game. |
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Sep-04-04
 | | Benzol: Blackburne managed to beat Lasker twice and that's something Alyekhin never managed to do. |
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| Oct-09-04 | | Hidden Skillz: <bezol> ever thought about a winnin ratio?? i guess not.. |
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Oct-09-04
| | Benzol: <Hidden Skillz>
Lasker played Blackburne in 17 games for a score of + 11 , = 4 , - 2.Lasker played Alyekhin in 7 games for a score of + 3 , = 4 , - 1. I'll let you work out the 'winnin' ratio.
Regards '<bezol>'. |
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| Oct-09-04 | | Hidden Skillz: <Benzol> k u missed my point..think about potential draws too..since lasker can beat the #$%& out of "henry" i mean look at his wins compared to draws n then look at AA's n laskers..plus its 10 games less..and no i dont need to work out the ratio..and a note to the first 2 losses AA suffered were at a time lasker was dominating pretty much everybody..ur post makes no sense really.. oh ye sorry bout ur nick "not lookin at my keyboard" |
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Oct-10-04
| | Benzol: <Hidden Skillz> OK mate. Thanks. |
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| Oct-10-04 | | ughaibu: I make it Lasker-Blackburne: 76% and Lasker-Alekhine: 62%. "first 2 losses AA suffered were at a time lasker was dominating pretty much everybody" isn't very convincing, you could say the same about Blackburne's losses or point out that Lasker's loss and one of his draws with Alekhine were when he was in his 60s, the loss when he'd just returned from a ten year retirement. I can only think of three Alekhine draws, are you including the exhibition game? Knock that and the post-retirement games out and Lasker-Alekhine becomes: 75%. Not much in it really. |
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| Oct-10-04 | | Hidden Skillz: <ughaibu> we can go back n forth on this subject..u have to realize AA was a better player than blackburne at least imo n in most ppls ayes too..for that fact games between lasker n AA would have been extremely close..perhaps like capa n AA.. |
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| Oct-10-04 | | ughaibu: I would agree that Alekhine was a more successful player than Blackburne though Blackburne may have been the more talented but I would say Lasker was a class above either of them. |
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| Apr-08-05 | | paladin at large: <ughaibu>Thanks for your good points. Blackburne had a lot of guts. This is an outstanding showing for a 72 year old, too. A very entertaining game. |
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| May-01-05 | | Abaduba: <ughaibu> <a class above both of them>
I agree that Lasker was on another level than Blackburne, but Alkehine? AAA is, IMHO one of the all-time greats just like Lasker; his games against Lasker were mostly before Alekhine had hit his stride. In fact, I would say that AAA was actually the greater player of the two. Their head-to-head results are not very accurate because their prime years don't line up. In a hypothetical match between both players at their peaks, I would predict a convincing victory for AAA- just look at how he beat Capa, while Lasker crashed and burned. |
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| May-01-05 | | iron maiden: <Abaduba> If head-to-head results are not indicative of who is the better player, then why in the world would results against a third player be? |
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| May-01-05 | | ughaibu: Abaduba: You're correct, their prime years dont line up, Lasker was well past his prime in 1924 while Alekhine was playing what he considered to be his best chess (1922 and 1925). The scores between them: Lasker 1.5-0.5 Alekhine, in a word 75% to Lasker. |
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| Apr-10-09 | | Dredge Rivers: This game is often printed as a minature, with white resigning after move 11. In fact, as you can see, Alekine battled back and salvaged a draw. Why anyone would want to run a false score of this is beyond me, the real one was quite interesting in its own right. |
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| Jul-22-10 | | Jim Bartle: Alekhine said he just forgot about the bishop on b5. |
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| Mar-24-13 | | wachter123680: excuse me but Why did Alekh Nxd4 when Nxe5 was import in Ruyz? and Blackburn 11..Qa5? what the. and 18 Qa7 when Re1 puts onus on e7's knight with Qa3. but I lose a lot some. |
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| Oct-21-19 | | Straclonoor: Best chance for Blackburne to win was on 18th move. Analysis by Stockfish 120919 64 POPCNT:
-+ (-4.43): 18...Kg7 19.Bc5 Nf5 20.Nxd4 Qc7 21.Nxf5+ Bxf5 22.Bd4 Qd6 23.h3 Re8 24.Bc5 Qb8 25.Qxb8 Rxb8 26.g4 Bd7 27.c3 Rc8 28.Be3 Bxb5 29.g5 Be7 30.Rd1 f6 31.Kf2 Ra8 32.Bd4 Kf7 33.h4 h6 34.Bxf6 Bxf6 35.gxf6 Kxf6 36.Ke3 Ra2 37.Kd4 Kf5 38.Kxd5 Bc6+ 39.Kc5 Rxb2 40.Rg1 Rb5+ 41.Kc4 Ra5 42.Re1 |
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| Dec-30-19 | | zydeco: Alekhine loses a whole piece out of the opening and manages to draw. 24....Ke7 is straighforward and the best winning chance. 38....Kd5? is the other culprit in terms of giving away the win. Blackburne was a little fussy in taking the b-pawn and allowed white's rook to reach g8. |
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