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Apr-06-06
 | | offramp: If someone played a move like 20.Bf8 against me I would look up and say, "What have you taken?" |
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| Apr-06-06 | | KholdStare: Fritz likes h6 more than f5. :( BTW, before Rb4, White still has drawing chances with Nd4. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | An Englishman: Good Evening: <offramp>, I would add, "...and where can I get some?" |
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| Apr-06-06 | | blingice: I am surprised that <CG.com> has any idea of what is going on in the rap world. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | al wazir: <blingice: I am surprised that <CG.com> has any idea of what is going on in the rap world.> Why do you think they/it does?? |
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| Apr-06-06 | | blingice: Well, if they are talking about Pall Mall cigarrettes (or however you spell that), and come to think of it, they most likely were. My initial impression on seeing the pun was "Paul Wall", the rapper. So, I would think it would be funny for a CHESS website (with every stereotype that comes with it) to make a rap pun (which it apparently didn't). |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Cogano: Hello <ganstaman> & <CapablancaFan> & I hope all is well. :) Thanks much for trying to help. But, I'm still no closer to understanding why capturing White's Bishop on move 20 is bad. If you or anyone else can clarify this I would really appreciate it. :) Thanks much in advance. :) Cheers! :) |
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| Apr-06-06 | | EmperorAtahualpa: Absolutely fantastic game! It actually looked like Black was winning up until 26...Qd8?? What a pity about that move! Of course, 20.Bf8! is simply brilliant.. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | itz2000: WOW!!!
Great game by white! |
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| Apr-06-06 | | dakgootje: Whites 20th move was just stunning, and that mate was pretty obvious -.- Btw i was under the impression that the pun was maul meant as hammer... |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Ezzy: <offramp: If someone played a move like 20.Bf8 against me I would look up and say, "What have you taken?"> Lol. I agree. If my opponent played 20 Bf8 and picked up my rook on e8, I would be conviced it had to be a legal move! |
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| Apr-06-06 | | Castle In The Sky: <EmperorAtahualpa> I agree the game was in black's favor until move 26. and the threatened mate was easily avoidable by either 26...♘f6 or 26...g6. 20.♗f8 was a very pretty move but not as deadly as it looked. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | kevin86: I know Pall Mall as the brand of a cigarette.
It was stunning that white didn't capture the rook at f8-but later moved there when it was vacant! Of course,it threatened both king and queen-on different sides of the board.The final sac set up a good example of Anastasia's mate. |
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| Apr-06-06 | | chessic eric: <ganstaman>, in your line 20...Rxf8 21.Ra1,Bd4 I think 22.Qxd4 gives white a larger advantage than trading bishops in the manner black does in the game. Following with 23.Ra7 claims alot of space for white. I also want to know what coffeehouse <Calli> plays in, where Anastasia's mate is common knowledge. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | gawain: <Cogano: I'm still no closer to understanding why capturing White's Bishop on move 20 is bad.> Now that his Bishop has cleared the a-file, White plans 21 Ra1 attacking the black Q, which has no ready escape route. 20 Bf8 cleared the a-file for this attack. So after 20 Bf8 K(or N or R)xf8 21 Ra1 Black must either return the Bishop with 21...Be4 (attacking the white Queen while clearing an escape square for his own Q at b6) or else "settle" for R+B+P for Q with 21... Qxa1. |
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Apr-06-06
 | | Pawn and Two: Leonhardt's 19th..Ne4?, was a mistake. Instead he should have played 19...Bc5! 20.Bxc5 Nxc5 21.Rc1 Qb6 with the advantage. Fritz 9's evaluation (-.82) (16 ply). After 19...Ne4?, Fritz 9's evaluation is (.05) (16 ply). |
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Apr-06-06
| | Pawn and Two: <chessic eric & gantsman> Alekhine's 20th Bf8?, was a mistake. Instead, he should have played 20.Ra1 Bd8 21.Bc5 Qxa1 (Bf6 might also be playable) 22.Qxa1 Nd7xc5 23.Nf3d4 Bg5 24.Nc3 Bb7. Fritz 9 evaluation after Black's 19th move (.05) (16 ply). After 20.Bf8? Rxf8! 21.Ra1 Bd4! 22. exd4 Qb6. Fritz 9 evaluation after 20.Bf8? (-.93) (18 ply). If 20.Bf8? Rxf8! 21.Ra1 Bd4! 22.Qxd4 Qb6 23.Qxb6 Nxb6 24.Ra7 f6. Fritz 9 evaluation after 24...f6 (-1.23 (16 ply). Fritz then gives the following continuation: 25.Nf3d4 Rf7 26.Ra2 e5. |
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Apr-06-06
| | Pawn and Two: Leonhardt's 20th, Bd4, also gave Black some advantage, but his position would have been better and easier to play if he had played, 20...Rxf8. After 20...Bd4 21.Nf3xd4 Rxf8. Fritz 9's evaluation is (-.80) (16 ply) and Fritz recommends the following line: 22.Nc6 Qb6 23.Nb5a7 Qxb2 24.Rxb2 or 22.Nc6 Qb6 23.Nbd4 Qxb2 24. Rxb2. Alekhine's 22nd move, 22.f3, was not quite as good as 22.Nc6. After 22.f3 Ne4c5, Fritz 9's evaluation is (-91) (16 ply). Fritz recommends after 22.f3 Ne4c5 23.Nd4c6 Qb6 24. Nb5 Qxb2. Instead, at move 24, Alekhine played 24.Ne7+ Kh8. Fritz 9's evaluation is now at (-1.21) (16 ply). Fritz then recommends 25. Nxc8 Rxc8 26.Qd4 Rd8. At move 25, Alekhine chose the move 25.Qc2. After 25...Bb7, Fritz 9's evaluation is (-1.43) (16 ply). Fritz then recommends 26.Nd4 Qd6 27.Bb5 Qxe7 28.Bxd7 e5 29.Nc6 Qd6. Alekhine's 26th move, Rb4?, was a definite losing move in normal circumstances. However, Leonhardt then missed a mate in two! As has been pointed out by others, either 26...f5! or 26...h6! would have won for Leonhardt. |
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| Apr-07-06 | | Cogano: Hello <gawain> & I hope all is well. :) Thanks much for your reply & explanation. I understand the situation now. Much obliged. :) Take very good care & have a great day. :) Cheers! :) |
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| Jul-05-09 | | WhiteRook48: 20 Bf8!! |
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Oct-14-09
| | Pawn and Two: <WhiteRook48: 20 Bf8!!> Actually, this move is: 20.Bf8?. Fritz indicates 20.Ra1! was White's best move: (.26) (21 ply) 20.Ra1 Bd8 21.Bc5 Qxa1+ 22.Qxa1 Ndxc5, (.44) (21 ply) 23.Nfd4 Bg5 24.Qa3 Be7, with some advantage for White. After 20.Bf8?, White was at a disadvantage: 20.Bf8? Rxf8 21.Ra1 Bd4 (-.65) (22 ply) 22.Qxd4 Qb6 23.Qxb6 Nxb6. Later in the game, after some additional slips, Alekhine's best chance for survival was: (-.87) (20 ply) 26.Nd4 Qd6 27.Bb5 Ba8 28.Ndc6, (-.92) (21 ply) 28...g6 29.Qc3+ f6, or (-.82) (21 ply) 28...Bxc6 29.Nxc6 Rc8. Instead, Alekhine played 26.Rb4??, and Leonhardt then had a clear winning position: (-2.69) (23 ply) 26...h6 27.Qc3 Re8 28.Nd4 Qc7 29.Nb5 Qb8 30.Nd4 Qe5 31.Rxb7 Nxb7. The following line is also very favorable for Black: (-2.13) (23 ply) 26...f5 27.Rb1 Re8 28.Nd4 Qd6 29.Nexf5 exf5 30.Bb5 Rc8 31.Qxf5 Qe7 32.Qf4 Ne5. Instead of playing 26...h6! or 26...f5, Leonhardt returned the favor on his 26th move. In a winning position, he overlooked mate in two! |
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Oct-25-12
 | | RayDelColle: Why not 3) ... Q a5 ch and; then snag the pawn? |
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| Oct-25-12 | | Karpova: <RayDelColle: Why not 3) ... Q a5 ch and; then snag the pawn?> 3...Qa5+ 4.Nc3 Qxc5 5.Qxd5 |
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Oct-29-12
| | RayDelColle: Thank You! Be Well! Namaste! |
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Jan-10-21
 | | Messiah: oh DEAR, I did not expect this finish! |
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