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Geza Maroczy vs Massimiliano Romi
San Remo (1930), San Remo ITA, rd 8, Jan-25
Semi-Slav Defense: Main Lines (D45)  ·  1-0

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Dec-30-12  morfishine: <sera> You are welcome! Luckily for me, with the last 2 or 3 puzzles, I've been able to narrow the choices, which makes things much simpler. If I can't do that, I'm in trouble having to work thru multiple candidates, adding confusion, etc.

<OhioChessFan> Good eye spotting 44...Rh6; This will be interesting to look at

Dec-30-12  Marmot PFL: 41 Qh5 is powerful, threatening discovered check, or promoting with check if the queen is captured. then 41...Rxh5 42 Rg8+ Kd7 43 e8(Q)+ Kc7 and either 44 Qxh5 or Qxc8+

Black missed a strong move himself on move 40...Rd3, threatening Rxh3+. 41 Rg8+ Rxg8 42 Qh5+ kd7 43 e8(Q)+ Rxe8 44 Qxe8+ Kc7 or 44 Qh7+ Kd8 45 Qxd3+ Bd7 and black defends.

Dec-30-12  vinidivici: this very easy for sunday (maybe more suitable for Friday).

i thought about Qh5 or Qg5.

But Qh5 it is, preparing discovered check with rook in the next move.

I dont know you guys, but these Saturday and Sunday puzzles are the easiest combination since a long time...i dont remember though getting the duo like this.

Dec-30-12
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  chrisowen: Had escry in view I 41.Qh5 a heady cocktail and escape not likely since good plug rookg8 is torrid for black delve in whites cupboard it risk in fooed 30.rd5 goes down 40...rd2 it now book in d3 would find more apt in continuing blacks fifth element doot bore on 40.rd2? quintessence h5 im liking choke took it down in dig tho' 41...Rxg2+ inc. oaf tries to boggle his way out of it he in pick up beef at rookxg2 low in take both queens off tender b2 ointment rook stoop in h3+ arc opening seems apparent for home straight rook restore parity clutch h7 and h6 fighting for e7 calms in cap off a stinker either d2 then h5 aether vindicate shine c8 raven h3 row man see queen down in cot wool it coin us a term in pretzeld a b2 h5 new o sir ever seal pitter in pater to the wall evermore 48.e8+ rook gnarling to go heads it's by high check-off 49.rh7+ l0 in cloth queen from coffed up.
Dec-30-12
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  scormus: Rats! I mean mice! I mean mouse trouble as I accidently brought 41 Qh5 onto my screen. I like to think I might have had a chance this time. Sigh :(
Dec-30-12  IndigoViolet: <It's kind of sad that Romi misses a nice win with 40...Rd3. But then, we wouldn't have seen 41.Qh5!>

Chalk up another victim of the <Maroczy Blind>. That well-known chess aficionado, Aldous Huxley, even wrote a book about it: <Eyeless in Geza>.

Dec-30-12
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  scormus: <IndigoViolet .... Eyeless in Geza>. How about you send it up as the pun
Dec-30-12  vonstolzing: Hi!
why not 41.Rg8+ Rxg8 42.Qh5+ Kd7 43.e8=Q+ Rxe8 44.Qxe8+ Kc7 45.Qe7+ and Te5+?
Dec-30-12  Patriot: <<vonstolzing> why not 41.Rg8+ Rxg8 42.Qh5+ Kd7 43.e8=Q+ Rxe8 44.Qxe8+ Kc7 45.Qe7+ and Te5+?> 45...Kb8 and I assume you mean 46.Qe5+? 46...Qxe5 47.Rxe5 and white is losing.
Dec-30-12
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  Phony Benoni: <vonstolzing> Your line ends up in this position after <45.Qe7+>:


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The problem for White in this and similar lines is that he remains behind down a piece for a pawn. The passed pawns on the kingside are some compensation, but Black has his own strong pawns on the queenside.

Dec-30-12  Kikoman: So the move <Rg8+> is losing for White, badly missed it. :(
Dec-30-12  LoveThatJoker: <SuperPatzer77> Thanks for the note! Happy New Year!! :D

LTJ

Dec-30-12  sshhhh: I hardly ever solve Sundays, but at least this time I failed in a way not covered in the previous posts. I went for 41.Re5, with the idea of forcing ... Rxh6 42.Rg8+. However, 41. Re5 Qxe5 42. fe Rxh6 43. Rxh6 Kxe7 just leaves me looking silly. And even if 41... Rxh6, white isn't doing so well anyway after 42. Rg8+ Kd7 43. e8Q+ Kc7 - the black king escapes and white's lost his major asset. Ah well. Put this one down to experience?
Dec-30-12
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  offramp: Qh5 it's a stunning move... Human problem-solving at its best.
Dec-30-12  rilkefan: I calculated Rg8+ and thought black had to play 44...Kd6, which leads to the forced win of Q for R and soon B for the f (now e) pawn. But 44...Kc7 is fine since the rook holds the d file.

Hopefully OTB I would have realized that I could play Qh5 without saccing the g6 rook having played 40.Re1.

Dec-30-12  Patriot: <sshhhh> It looks like you are right that 41.Re5 Qxe5 wins for black. Also winning is 41...Rxg2+ 42.Rxg2 Qxg2+ 43.Kxg2 Rxh6 . When looking at the original position, if white 'passes' and allows black to move this is the current threat. 41.Re5 doesn't alter the original threat.
Dec-30-12
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  OhioChessFan: <sshhhh> yeah, you went the same route I did before I gave up.
Dec-30-12  James D Flynn: Materially Black is up a B for 2 pawns but one of tos pawns is on the 7th rank backed by a White R. Both Ks are in danger and Whites Q appears to be attacked by the R on h8 which is protected by the Q on b2. The Q cannot move off the h file because that would allow Black to mate by 41…..Rxh3+ 42,Kg1 Qb6+ 43.Kf1 Qf2#. The attack on the Q however, is more apparent than real, for if the Ron h8 moves off the back rank 42.Rg8+ Kd7 43.d8=Q+ and the Black K is subject to multiple checks by the new Q and both Rs. Which suggest that the Q can force the R to take with impunity let’s say by 41.Qh5 threatening double check by Rg8 or 41.Qh7 threatening 42,Rg8+ where after Rxg8 43,Qxg8+ and White gets a 2nd Q while the Q still protects the pawn on g2. White is not the only one who can sacrifice so with either Q move White must consider the reply 41…..Rxg2+ and therein lies a significant difference between Qh5 when 42.Rxg2 comes with a Q check and Qh7 when it doesn’t. For that reason Qh5 looks more promising but let’s just look at 41.Qh2 Rxg2+ 42,Rxg2(forced) Qxg2+ 43.Kxg2 Rxh7 now Black has won a pawn and the R on h7 threatens both the d7 pawn and the h3 pawn, White is quite lost. Therefore 41.Qh5 Rxh5(if Rxg2+ 42.Rxg2+ Rxh5 43.Rxb2 Rxh3+ 44.Kg2 b6 45.f5 Bxf5 46.Rf2 Rh5 47.Kg3 c5 48.Re5 Bg6 40.Rxh5 Bxh5 31.Rf5 Bg6 32.Re5 Bf7 33.a3 c4 34.Kf5 c3 35.Kf6 c2(else 36.Rd1 and mate on d8) 36.Rc1 Bb3 37.Rh1 Kd2 38.Rh8 c1=Q 39.e8=Q+ Kd6 41.Qd8+ Kc5 42.Rh5+ Kc4(a3 prevents the saving Kb4) 43.Qx8+ Kd3 44.Qxc1 wins)42.Rg1+ Kd2 43.Qd8+ Kd6 44.Rg6+ Kc7 45.Re7+ Kb8 46.Qxc8+ Kxc8 47.Rg8#
Dec-30-12  vonstolzing: thks
patriot and phony!
Dec-30-12  sshhhh: Good way of putting it, <Patriot>. Thanks.
Dec-31-12  sera: <James D Flynn> Thank you for giving a detailed account.
Dec-31-12  sera: <morfishine> Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
Dec-31-12  morfishine: <Phony Benoni> Nice find on <40...Rd3> Overloading h3 would've pushed White over the edge

<sera> NP; feel free to drop by forum anytime! We are always looking at something!

Aug-03-16
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  fredthebear: Let us not forget 34.Bxg6, the Bishop sacrifice that started this White surge to the finish. It's capture allows the passed pawn.
Mar-01-22
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  FSR: This game is memorable on two counts. It is the only game in the database where Romi played what became known as the Romih Variation (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Nf3 c6 5.e3 Nbd7 6.Bd3 Bb4). And of course for Maroczy's stunning 41.Qh5!!
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