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Frank Marshall vs Milan Vidmar
New York (1927), New York, NY USA, rd 15, Mar-13
Slav Defense: Exchange Variation (D13)  ·  0-1

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Sep-19-05  Resignation Trap: Oops! Marshall's 21. Rb5? loses instantly to 21...Rc1!!
Sep-19-05  Brown: Think white is lost after 17.Re1 Ne4! He should settle for being down the exchange... though 21.Qe2 may be a try. After 21.Qe2 Bg4 22.Qf1 <22.f3 exf4 23.Qf2 might work too> white's game is not immediately lost.
Sep-19-05  Boomie: 11. ♘b5 looks like a club move. I would have been tempted to play 11. dxe5 ♘xe5 12. h3 and worked against the isolated pawn.
Sep-19-05  Resignation Trap: Marshall starts to go astray with the materialistic 14. Rc7? He should have tried the simple 14. Be2, and he then could have worked against the isolated pawn.

By the way, the moves in this game up to and including 18.f4 were also seen in Allan Nilsson - Spielmann in a match game played in December 1924. The light squares around White's King were also a deciding factor in that encounter: 18.f4 Nc5 19.Bxh7+ Kxh7 20.Qc2+ Kg8 21.Qxc5 Qh4 22.Qxd5 Qg4+ 23.Kh1 Rad8 24.Rg1 Qxg1+ 25.Kxg1 Rxd5 0-1.

Sep-20-05  Boomie: I looked at Trap's idea of 14. ♗e2. Looking at the 11. dxe5 line in more depth, there isn't a huge plus over the 14. ♗e2 line. I believe white has to play h3 in a position where black is bearing down on g4.

♘b5 makes more sense to me now than originally. The control of the black isolated pawn through d4 might decide in the endgame. Black will have to find counterplay in the middle game. White getting a rook to c7 would be icing but that is unlikely.

(11. dxe5 ♘xe5 12. h3 ♗d7 13. ♗e2

(13. ♘xe5 ♕xe5 14. ♕f3 ♖ac8 (0.32/14))

13...♖ac8 14. ♖c1 ♖fe8 15. ♕b3 (0.39/13))

11...♕e7 12. dxe5 ♘xe5 13. ♖c1

(13. ♘xe5 ♕xe5 14. ♘d4 ♘g4 15. g3 ♕f6 16. ♖c1 ♕h6 17. h4= (0.20/13))

(13. ♗e2 ♘xf3+ 14. ♗xf3 ♗f5 15. ♖c1
= (0.21/13))

(13. ♘fd4 ♗d7 14. ♖c1 ♖ac8 15. ♖xc8 ♖xc8= (0.11/13))

(13. h3 ♘e4 14. ♘xe5 ♕xe5 15. ♖c1 ♗d7 16. ♘d4= (0.19/13))

May-15-11
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  Peligroso Patzer: In the tournament book (“New York 1927”, by Alexander Alekhine, tr. fr. German by Mary Lawrence, Russell Enterprises, Inc., ©2011, at pages 133-134), Alekhine analyzes White’s best defense at move 21, i.e., <21. Qe2!> (erroneously printed as Qc2 [sic] in the source cited above) and continues his analysis with: “if <21. … Rc5>, then <22. f3!>; and if <21. … f5>, then <22. Ne6! Rf6 23. Ng5!>, when [23.] <… Rh6> or [23.] <… Rg6> would be a decisive mistake – <24. Qc4+>!.” (He recommends <21. … Rfd8> as Black’s best try for an advantage.)

Alekhine's analysis of the second variation (with <21. … f5>) is flawed, however. In the position <after 23. Ng5>:


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… Black can win with either the simple <23. … h6> (kicking the Knight) or the spectacular <23. … Rc2!> (deflecting the Queen). So it seems that <21. … f5> would have been winning, even if White had played the best defensive move on his 21st turn.

Also omitted from Alekhine’s notes is any comment on Black’s 20th move (<20. … Rac8>), which set a trap that Marshall failed to spot (and thus led quickly to a win). Although the move was probably good enough to win even against the best defense (as analyzed above), Vidmar had an even stronger move available: <20. … Rad8! >. For example: <20. ... Rad8! 21. Rb5 f5 22. Qe2 Rf6 > (but not <22... Rxd4? 23. exd4 Bg4 24. Qc4+ Kh8 25. Qf7 Rg8 26. Re3 >).

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