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Alexander Alekhine vs Savielly Tartakower
"To kower in fear!" (game of the day May-29-2022)
Kecskemet (1927), Kecskemet HUN, rd 3, Jun-28
Caro-Kann Defense: Main Line (B15)  ·  1-0

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Oct-12-07
Premium Chessgames Member
  Jimfromprovidence: I need some help. If after 15…Kh8 I don’t see how white gets a significant material advantage.

I found that if 16 Rxd8 this set up a series of exchanges where white gains a rook and two pawns for a bishop and a knight.

If white plays 16 Qxf7 then the continuation gets real murky real fast. Black can play 16… Nb8d7. If White plays 17 Bxh6 followed by black’s 17… Bf8, then what happens?

Thanks

Oct-12-07  zb2cr: <einuj>,

No, you're not missing anything. If Black plays 15. ... Kh8, White does have to get his own Queen out of the way before grabbing off Black's Queen. <YouRang> pointed out one possibility--16. Qxf7. Black then can move his Queen as well. The attempted Black counterattack 16. ... Rf8 doesn't look convincing, as 17.Rxd8 looks strong. Perhaps 16. ... Qc8 is an acceptable move?

Oct-12-07  knightstour: <einuj> oops, I guess its 16Qxf7 first! And then perhaps if 16...Nbd7 17Nf5, threatening 18Qg7#, or 17Bxh6, with the same idea. Perhaps.
Oct-12-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <Jimfromprovidence: I need some help. If after 15…Kh8 I don’t see how white gets a significant material advantage>

Here's a hint from my very first kibitz:

15...Kh8 Qxf7 with threat of <<<Nf5>>> and Bxh6

Oct-12-07  Drudge: What would be wrong with 14. Qh4

-- That's the move I choose. with idea 15. Ng7 or Nxe7

what is flaw with this plan? seems Blacks Knight is stuck on f6

Oct-12-07  TheaN: 5/5

Woah. That I actually got this one till at least move 18 is above my rating.

14.Nh6+! to clear the path. Wonderful move. 14....gxh6 is forced (Kf8 15.Qxf7# and Kh8 15.Nxf7+ Kg8 16.Nh6+ Kh8 17.Qg8+ smothered mate).

Now the fireworks begin. Move 15 is obvious, ram in the Bishop for the discovery, Bxh7+. Black's 15th move is not that forced though.

15....Kf8 16.Bxh6#
15....Kxh7 16.Qxf7+ Kh8 17.Rxd8 Bxd8 18.Bxh6
15....Kh8 16.Qxf7! ? (any Queen saving move) 17.Bxh6 15....Kg7 16.Nf5+! Kh8 (Kf8 17.Bxh6# / Kxh7 17.Qxf7+ Kh8 18.Qg7#) 17.Qxf7 15....Nxh7 16.Qg4+ as played.

16....N/Bg4 17.Rxd8 R/Bxd8 18.h4
16....Kf8 17.Bxh6#
16....Kh8 17.Rxd8 Rxd8

Here I went different than in the game, and I played 18.Bxh6!?. It seems to be a more powerful move than 18.Qe4 as that is always playable, for instance after 18....Rg8. I have to admit that I missed the Qe4 idea in the end (I noticed it a few moves earlier), but I'm find it hard to believe that Black isn't in enough shambles already, after move 17. Although it's two pieces and a Rook for a Queen and a Pawn, Black has no coordination at all and should still watch out for his weakened King. I'm giving myself the point for seeing the intermediate 18.Bxh6!? and for the fact that I would've noticed 19.Qe4 OTB XD.

Oct-12-07  TheaN: I've seen 18.Bxh6 Bf6. Isn't this still followed by 19.Qe4? I dunno. I concluded the puzzle with 18.Bxh6 with the idea of keeping full pressure on Black, and I guess that still wins.
Oct-12-07  TheaN: Ah, 19....Nd7. Hm. Yeah, that's tricky. Oh well, who cares. I would've played 18.Qe4 OTB >_>.
Oct-12-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: I think I figured something out. If 15…Kh8 16 Qxf7 Nb8d7 17 Be4 Nxe4 18 Nxe4 seems to lead to a winning game for white.

I would appreciate your comments.

Oct-12-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <Jimfromprovidence: I think I figured something out. If 15…Kh8 16 Qxf7 Nb8d7 17 Be4 Nxe4 18 Nxe4 seems to lead to a winning game for white. I would appreciate your comments.>

17...Bf8 and you'll have to work harder for a win than you should need to

See my previous message for a hint.

Oct-12-07  MostlyAverageJoe: <TheaN: I've seen 18.Bxh6 Bf6. Isn't this still followed by 19.Qe4? >

Same hint as for <Jimfromprovidence>

Oct-12-07  YouRang: <Drudge: What would be wrong with 14. Qh4 >

Nothing! It seems to win too. :-)

Oct-12-07
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  Jimfromprovidence: <Jimfromprovidence: I think I figured something out. If 15…Kh8 16 Qxf7 Nb8d7 17 Be4 Nxe4 18 Nxe4 seems to lead to a winning game for white. I would appreciate your comments.>

<MostlyAverageJoe>

17...Bf8 and you'll have to work harder for a win than you should need to

See my previous message for a hint.

Okay, <MostlyAverageJoe> then.. 17 Nf5 Bf8 18 Nh4 Bg7 19 Bf5 looks like it wins for white.

Thanks for the hint.

Jan-14-12
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  jessicafischerqueen: Played in Hungary at the <Kecskemét 1927> interntional tournament.

<Alekhine> clear first over Nimzowitsch and Lajos Steiner.

Jul-16-15
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  SpaceRunner: On that level a quick win!!

Good example on how to punish weak opening moves! 7.- Bc5 ? Nice tactics!

"playground player: Nice slow kill by Alekhine."

Oct-23-18  cunctatorg: OMG...
Nov-18-21
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  plang: 5 Ng3 is rarely played nowadays; in particular the response 5..h5 has scored very well for Black. The clever 8 Qe2+ was introduced in this game; 8 Be3 had been played previously. 9..c5?! temporarily preventing queenside castling seems slow and chases the knight to an excellent square. 11..Re8?! weakens the king position; Black's whole setup just seems designed to grant White good tactical possibilities.
May-29-22  nalinw: Nice pun ....
May-29-22
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  Honza Cervenka: <Jimfromprovidence: I need some help. If after 15…Kh8 I don’t see how white gets a significant material advantage. I found that if 16 Rxd8 this set up a series of exchanges where white gains a rook and two pawns for a bishop and a knight.

If white plays 16 Qxf7 then the continuation gets real murky real fast. Black can play 16… Nb8d7. If White plays 17 Bxh6 followed by black’s 17… Bf8, then what happens?

Thanks>

15...Kh8 16.Qxf7 Nbd7 17.Nf5! Bf8 18.Nh4 Bg7 19.Bf5 with very cute threat of mate: 20.Ng6+ Kh7 21.Ne7+ Kh8 22.Qg8+!! Rxg8 23.Ng6+ Kh7 24.Ne5+ Kh8 25.Nf7#. Against this threat black has no satisfactory defence. 19...Ne5 20.Ng6+ Nxg6 21.Rxd8 Raxd8 22.Qxg6 is clearly hopeless, and also relatively better 19...Rxe3 20.fxe3 Qe8 (what else?) 21.Ng6+ Kh7 22.Nf4+ Kh8 23.Qxe8+ Rxe8 24.Bxd7 Rxe3 25.Be6 with extra Exchange and Pawn leaves no doubts about the final result of the game.

May-29-22  sfm: The move 9.-,c5 seemed strange to me.
'Chasing' the knight, causing 10.Ndf5, does not make White unhappy. And soon Black must spend a move -,b6 on covering c5. Simply 9.-,0-0 gives Black at least equal (so says The Engine)

10.0-0-0(!)
Larsen would have called it 'one of the most dangerous traps: those without bait'. And Black steps right in. 10.-,Ba6?? 11.Nh6+!

+4.10 says The Engine, but also that the position was very bad already, even on the best reply 10.-,BxN 11.NxB,Bf8 (+1.77)

Tartakower, top ranked, and probably the world champion in 'chess-wit', said it himself: "It is not enough to be a strong player, you have to make good moves."

May-29-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  MissScarlett: Tartakower strikes me as one player who wasn't intimidated by Alekhine, despite the 10-2 score in the latter's favour. Both settled in Paris during the 1920s and 1930s and it appears they were on good terms. A closer look reveals that from 1921-1925, they played ten times with a level score: +1 -1 =8.
May-29-22  Sally Simpson: "...and it appears they were on good terms."

After WWII when Alekhine was being shunned by all, Tartakower organised a collection for him and contributed £1. (today approx £40.00)

https://www.chesshistory.com/winter...

May-29-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: One quid was most generous, given Tartakower's proclivities away from the board.
May-30-22
Premium Chessgames Member
  fredthebear: CG.'s propensity for poking pun at a person's name backfires badly here. The w in Tartakower is pronounced like a v ( -over). Tartakower vas not a coward. If anything, he might hawe been an overachiewer.
Jan-26-23
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  ronski: If 14 ..Kh8 then mat in 4.
15 Nf7+ Kg8,
16 Nh6++ Kh8,
17 Qg8+ N or Rxg8
18 Nf7#
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