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Samuel Rosenthal vs Simon Winawer
London (1883), London ENG, rd 4, May-01
Four Knights Game: Double Spanish (C49)  ·  1/2-1/2



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Aug-05-16  Straclonoor: According to Lomonosov 7-pieces tablebases Rosenthal could won this game. Here the line
58. Rd4 Ra1 59. Rg4 a3 60. Rg3 a2 61. Rg2 Kxd5 62. Kg7 Ke6 63. f7 Rf1 64. Re2+ Kd6 65. Rxa2 Rg1+ 66. Kf8 Kc6 67. Rc2+ Kd6 68. Rd2+ Kc6 69. Rd4 Rf1 70. Kg7 Rg1+ 71. Kf6 Rh1 72. Ra4 Rd1 73. Ra5 Rd6+ 74. Kg7 Rd7 75. Rg5 Rb7 76. Kg8 Rb8+ 77. f8=Q Rxf8+ 78. Kxf8 Kd6 79. Kf7 Kd7 80. Rg6 Kd8 81. Ke6 Kc7 82. Ke7 Kc8 83. Kd6 Kb7 84. Kd7 Kb8 85. Kc6 Ka8 86. Kb6 Kb8 87. Rg8#
Aug-28-17  Straclonoor: 43.Re3 also looks strange. It's winning move, but 43.Kf1 or Ke2 wins more faster.

Analysis by Stockfish 260817 64 POPCNT:

1. +- (6.30): 43.Kf1 cxd3 44.Rd1 Ke7 45.Rxd3 Bb6 46.d6+ Kd8 47.Rh8+ Kd7 48.Rh6 Rg1+ 49.Ke2 Rg2+ 50.Kd1 Rg7 51.Kc2 Rf7 52.Kb3 Bc5 53.Kc4 Bf2 54.Rg6 Bb6 55.Kd5 Rf5+ 56.Ke4 Rc5 57.Rg7+ Kc6 58.f4 Rc4+ 59.Ke5 Rc2 60.Rh7 a5 61.Rh6 Kd7 62.f5 Rc5+ 63.Kf4 Rc4+ 64.Kf3 Rc2 65.Rh7+ Kd8 66.Ke4

2. +- (6.12): 43.Ke2 Rg2+ 44.Kd1 cxd3 45.Rh8+ Kg7 46.Rb8 Kf6 47.Re6+ Kf5 48.Rb3 Rg1+ 49.Kd2 a5 50.Rxd3 Rg2+ 51.Kd1 Rg7 52.Rc6 Bf2 53.Kc2 Rd7 54.Kc3 Bg3 55.Kc4 Bd6 56.Re3 a4 57.Kd4 Be7 58.Re4 Bd6 59.Re6 Be7 60.Re3 Bd6 61.Re4 a3 62.Re3 Bb8 63.Re8 Bd6 64.Ra6 Bb4

Feb-04-19  Straclonoor: One more.
38.Rxe2! wins easely (38....Rxe2 39.Kf3+!).
38.Rd1 also good (see analysis below).
Three times in the game Rosenthal missed win!

Analysis by Stockfish 091218 64 POPCNT:

1. +- (9.91): 38.Rxe2 Kf8 39.Rxe7 Kxe7 40.Rh1 h5 41.Rxh5 a5 42.Rh7+ Kf6 43.Ra7 c4 44.Rxa5 Ke5 45.Kf3 Bc7 46.Ra7 Bb8 47.Ra8 Bd6 48.Be4 c3 49.Ra4 Kf6 50.Ra6 Ke5 51.Rc6 c2 52.Rxc2 Kd4 53.Rc6

2. +- (4.18): 38.Bd1 Rg7+ 39.Kh1 Bb5 40.Re6 Bf8 41.Be2 c4 42.Re4 Kh8 43.Bxc4 Bd7 44.Be2 Bc5 45.Rxg7 Kxg7 46.Bg4 Bb5 47.Kg2 Bd3 48.Rf4 Bb1 49.Rc4 Bb6 50.d6 Kf6 51.Rc8 h5 52.Bh3 Bxa2 53.d7 Bf7 54.d8Q+ Bxd8 55.Rxd8

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