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🏆 Marshall - Tarrasch (1905)

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Player: Siegbert Tarrasch

 page 1 of 1; 17 games  PGN Download 
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. Marshall vs Tarrasch 0-1441905Marshall - TarraschD51 Queen's Gambit Declined
2. Tarrasch vs Marshall ½-½291905Marshall - TarraschC12 French, McCutcheon
3. Marshall vs Tarrasch ½-½301905Marshall - TarraschD40 Queen's Gambit Declined, Semi-Tarrasch
4. Tarrasch vs Marshall ½-½441905Marshall - TarraschD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
5. Marshall vs Tarrasch 0-1481905Marshall - TarraschD00 Queen's Pawn Game
6. Tarrasch vs Marshall ½-½651905Marshall - TarraschC11 French
7. Marshall vs Tarrasch 0-1471905Marshall - TarraschC26 Vienna
8. Tarrasch vs Marshall 1-0601905Marshall - TarraschC11 French
9. Marshall vs Tarrasch 1-0391905Marshall - TarraschD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
10. Tarrasch vs Marshall 1-0421905Marshall - TarraschC11 French
11. Marshall vs Tarrasch ½-½121905Marshall - TarraschC68 Ruy Lopez, Exchange
12. Tarrasch vs Marshall ½-½501905Marshall - TarraschC11 French
13. Marshall vs Tarrasch ½-½511905Marshall - TarraschC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
14. Tarrasch vs Marshall 1-0441905Marshall - TarraschC42 Petrov Defense
15. Marshall vs Tarrasch ½-½361905Marshall - TarraschD32 Queen's Gambit Declined, Tarrasch
16. Tarrasch vs Marshall 1-0371905Marshall - TarraschB21 Sicilian, 2.f4 and 2.d4
17. Marshall vs Tarrasch 0-1321905Marshall - TarraschC61 Ruy Lopez, Bird's Defense
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Kibitzer's Corner
Jul-03-14  MountainMatt: This performance clearly showed that Marshall deserved a title shot ahead of Tarrasch. Yep, makes perfect sense!
Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  Fusilli: <The match between the then 8th (Marshall) and 3rd strongest players in the world...>

How were these placements determined?

Apr-28-15
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Most probably by retrospective grading from Sonas' website.
Feb-16-16  offramp: <perfidious: Most probably by retrospective grading from Sonas' website.>

Yes, and although some people disagree with Sonas's methods and ratings, his ordering of top players looks very reliable.

Feb-16-16
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: <offramp> Sonas' ratings reinforce the oft-posted view of <frogbert> that ratings should be treated as relative measures within a period of time, not across different eras.
Feb-16-16  offramp: <perfidious: <offramp> Sonas' ratings reinforce the oft-posted view of <frogbert> that ratings should be treated as relative measures within a period of time, not across different eras.>

Although I really like Sonas and his site, I prefer the more conservative http://www.edochess.ca/. The ratings there are much less "far out" despite being Californian, but they stop in 1921. It gives Capablanca's highest rating as 2829, following his win in Capablanca - Kostic (1919), and I believe that Capa himself said that that was when he was strongest.

Feb-16-16  offramp: Edochess has a page for this at http://www.edochess.ca/matches/m144..., although it doesn't say much. It gives the following ratings.

<Tarrasch, Siegbert 2645 (34) Marshall, Frank 2583 (26).>

Feb-16-16  john barleycorn: So the result Marshall had in his match with Lasker did not come as a shock him

Lasker - Marshall World Championship Match (1907)

Feb-16-16  offramp: Not reeeeeeally.
Mar-09-18  sudoplatov: Note that running up to this match, Marshall won several strong tournaments. It's just that Tarrasch (and Lasker and Capablanca) were much stronger.

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