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🏆 Oslo Esports Cup (2022)

  PARTICIPANTS (sorted by highest achieved rating; click on name to see player's games)
Magnus Carlsen, Shakhriyar Mamedyarov, Anish Giri, Jan-Krzysztof Duda, Le Quang Liem, Rameshbabu Praggnanandhaa, Jorden van Foreest, Eric Hansen

 page 1 of 5; games 1-25 of 111  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves YearEvent/LocaleOpening
1. R Praggnanandhaa vs J van Foreest  ½-½422022Oslo Esports CupD12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
2. Mamedyarov vs Le Quang Liem  ½-½462022Oslo Esports CupD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
3. Giri vs E Hansen  ½-½632022Oslo Esports CupC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
4. Duda vs Carlsen 0-1432022Oslo Esports CupB42 Sicilian, Kan
5. Duda vs Carlsen 0-1562022Oslo Esports CupB11 Caro-Kann, Two Knights, 3...Bg4
6. E Hansen vs Giri  ½-½222022Oslo Esports CupB90 Sicilian, Najdorf
7. Carlsen vs Duda ½-½622022Oslo Esports CupC20 King's Pawn Game
8. Le Quang Liem vs Mamedyarov 0-1842022Oslo Esports CupD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
9. Giri vs E Hansen 1-0532022Oslo Esports CupC84 Ruy Lopez, Closed
10. Mamedyarov vs Le Quang Liem  ½-½632022Oslo Esports CupD39 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin, Vienna Variation
11. J van Foreest vs R Praggnanandhaa 0-1342022Oslo Esports CupE28 Nimzo-Indian, Samisch Variation
12. J van Foreest vs R Praggnanandhaa  0-1622022Oslo Esports CupE32 Nimzo-Indian, Classical
13. E Hansen vs Giri  ½-½342022Oslo Esports CupC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
14. Le Quang Liem vs Mamedyarov  ½-½322022Oslo Esports CupD38 Queen's Gambit Declined, Ragozin Variation
15. R Praggnanandhaa vs Mamedyarov  1-0322022Oslo Esports CupD12 Queen's Gambit Declined Slav
16. Carlsen vs Le Quang Liem 0-1392022Oslo Esports CupA06 Reti Opening
17. Le Quang Liem vs Carlsen  ½-½502022Oslo Esports CupD30 Queen's Gambit Declined
18. Giri vs Duda  ½-½602022Oslo Esports CupD91 Grunfeld, 5.Bg5
19. J van Foreest vs E Hansen 1-0542022Oslo Esports CupB41 Sicilian, Kan
20. Mamedyarov vs R Praggnanandhaa  ½-½392022Oslo Esports CupD41 Queen's Gambit Declined, Semi-Tarrasch
21. Duda vs Giri  ½-½642022Oslo Esports CupA48 King's Indian
22. Duda vs Giri  ½-½402022Oslo Esports CupD85 Grunfeld
23. E Hansen vs J van Foreest  0-1602022Oslo Esports CupB13 Caro-Kann, Exchange
24. E Hansen vs J van Foreest 1-0392022Oslo Esports CupC65 Ruy Lopez, Berlin Defense
25. Carlsen vs Le Quang Liem 1-0342022Oslo Esports CupE10 Queen's Pawn Game
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  Atterdag: You're probably right, <Everett>. These are bleak times. It's hard to muster a surplus of energy for chess.
Apr-30-22  nok: <And, btw, is CG fading out into oblivion? Scarce of comments and engaging discussions.>

One word: Albertan.

Apr-30-22  Albertan: Duda comes from behind to win Oslo Esports Cup:

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  moronovich: <One word: Albertan.>

Please. <Albertan > does a fine service, which you should acknowledge.

Apr-30-22  Everyone: <<Albertan > does a fine service, which you should acknowledge.> Everyone does it. Thank you, <Albertan>!
Apr-30-22  nok: <<Albertan > does a fine service, which you should acknowledge.>

I acknowledge he's made chess pages less readable and human-friendly than Rogoff, which is impressive.

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  Atterdag: <nok> Once again you don't disappoint my worst expectations. Why be generous, if you can be mean, right?
Apr-30-22  nok: <Atterdag> It's my contribution to why discussions are dying. Maybe I'm wrong and people enjoy oceans of links and going back two pages to follow.

As for being mean, I've tried to talk to him a couple times and never got an answer. He has all the subtlety of a bot.

Apr-30-22  Z free or die: Of course everybody (including everyone) is entitled to their opinion - but imo <Abertan> is far from being a fundamental of <CG>'s decline.

His links generally don't generate too many quotes - so putting him on ignore basically excludes him from view.

From my pov, the irony is that the very person most responsible for <CG>'s decline is also the person who is saving it from having the plug pulled out.

At some point soon there will be a reckoning for the future of <CG> and some tough choices will have to be made.


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  Atterdag: <nok ... As for being mean, I've tried to talk to him a couple times and never got an answer. He has all the subtlety of a bot.>

Okay, that's a fair notion, I'll give you that. Nevertheless, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Extract <Albertan> and this place is even more a desert of nothingness.

Interesting viewpoints and observations, <Z free or die>.

<HeMateMe>. You think a host has no responsibility towards the party they have invited into their house? Some of the guests have even paid for their seat at the table.

And - what an artificially driven differentiation (if not polarization) between people with a work and people who contribute to this site. As if you can't contribute if you've got a work? Seriously?

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  perfidious: Dang! Just read the link to this page as 'Oslo Escorts Cup'.
May-01-22  Retireborn: <perf> Norwegian Wood?
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  perfidious: <Retireborn>, not keen to find out, one way or t'other.
May-01-22  ndg2: It's a rarity to see MC lose so many games with white. I mean, losing with black in rapid isn't unheard of even for Magnus, but I looked at his losses with white with some astonishment.
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  HeMateMe: well, i just HAD to Google <Norwegian Escorts>


frankly, I'm going to keep my wallet in my pocket...

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  HeMateMe: Even Karpov was not invincible in tournaments.
May-02-22  tonsillolith: <nok: One word: Albertan.>

Yes, I'm sure it's that, and not the crotchety members who bemoan and belittle other members just earnestly showing interest in chess.


May-02-22  MrMelad: <nok> and his like are obviously a way larger deterrent than people that post constructive links.

But even he is not the reason, we had worse characters here. Lack of management and vision is the main reason, IMHO. No one that can make real decisions. For example, the design of the forums was already outdated in 2008. New users that have experienced discord and other modern forums, will never agree to set their bar so low. No notification system, no up votes, no personal message system, heck you can’t even search <your own> posts without paying premium fee. But admins aren’t even updating tournament and games on time, whose going to do all of that?

The idea of having a unique forum for each chess game, player, tournament, etc.., is a great idea and some of the conversations here were really top notch, even, I’d say, historically significant. But the site has to have a complete and total make over. The past is in the past.

And close that damn rogoff page already. The flames aren’t contained and have burned through all the main pages.

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  Atterdag: Rarely, if ever, have I read such a precise, erudite and insightful analysis and assessment of this site.

I completely agree with every word of yours, <MrMelad>, and just wish that someone with authority and capability would act upon them. Unfortunately, during many years, similar pleas for change have been in vain.

Nevertheless, you have my gratitude for this brilliant post, <MrMelad>.

May-03-22  MrMelad: Thank you <Atterdag>. One more important thing to add about strengths of this site is the historical research in the player pages and some of the game pages, the bios, the tournaments, historical games authentication and of course all the other work of the site librarian led by Phoney Benoni. Those things are still, I’m my eyes, very important assets.

I just realised, btw, that it now costs money to access the tab “history”. Beats me how someone can charge money for work done for free, voluntarily by a member. Bet the money isn’t going to Mr. Benoni either… but I may be uninformed, if the site librarian is now on the payroll.

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  Atterdag: <MrMelad>. When Daniel Freeman passed away the site was kept alive by the members and volunteers for almost a year - while no one in the leadership turned up and took responsibility for anything. Thereafter many unfulfilled promises were made, an amateurish effort to improve the design quickly stranded, and now it has become a desolate place, while countless contributors have left the site. Very sad, actually, since there are gold veins of great knowledge hidden in this old cave. As you mentioned.
May-03-22  MrMelad: I know <Atterdag>. Daniel and I have corresponded a few times, in the different pages, on email on several occasions and few times with his alter ego Sneaky. I considered both Daniel and Sneaky my friends even before I knew they were the same person.

Very soon after he was gone I crawled most of the site content to be able to preserve it in case it will get shut down. This data was first encrypted somewhere and now it is deleted.

I followed some of what happened next, but admittedly, not as close as I used to 10-15 years ago.

When someone started an effort to refactor the code and add new features I offered my help for free, as a SW and algorithms developer with almost 20 years experience, but didn’t even get a response.

This site, for some reason I don’t really understand, has a special place in my heart and I will be very sad to see it disappear, for its content and especially for its unique community. The latter definitely deserve better.

May-03-22  not not: Tonsilosis, Aterdag,, MrMelad

Honorable gentlemen, I fully concur.

This website deteriorated since Life Master Goldsby had left and trolling flourished unchecked.

Hopefully likes of nok will be banished from these pages and we, the conesseurs of the game, will finally be free to praise Carlsen and other greats.

Until then though we need to suffer enormously under duress caused mainly by nok and big pawn.

But dispair not, fine gentlemen, we will prevail and one day we will be free to praise Kramnik and Leko once again....

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  Atterdag: <MrMelad: ... This site, for some reason I don’t really understand, has a special place in my heart and I will be very sad to see it disappear, for its content and especially for its unique community. The latter definitely deserve better.>

Words of truth. I fully concur - with a measure of sadness.

May-05-22  tonsillolith: <MrMelad> yes, your analysis is entirely on point, and I especially appreciate your offer to help out on the SW side personally. I think a app would be a really good direction to go, and I would really enjoy using it.

Although this site has been left behind in many technological respects, it still has something to offer that I can't find anywhere else on the web, and that's why I've been frequenting for so long.

Though it's a tad depressing to put it in words like this, few things bring be as much joy as haunting these forums, cracking open a new tournament page, or just deciding on a whim to go through all the games from some particular historical tourney.

When I have more time, I would be open to lending my own help to the site. I have a technical chop or two, but my area of expertise isn't what CG needs badliest.

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