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| yalie: <twinlark: The sole power of a national federation has to do with being a conduit for ratings and titles. The apparent bullying by the likes of D.V. Sundar can only occur by threatening to withhold games being rated (she's already a GM).
She should just play <the tournaments she wants to> anyway. If her games are not sent for rating purposes, she should protest to the ICF, or to FIDE or even take legal action. I can't see what other power Sundar has other than to withhold her games from ratings and prevent her selection in team games. I really don't understand how the ICF can prevent a player from playing in a FIDE tournament of their own choosing. Hopefully, Anand and the other top Indian players will join in common cause. They should, no federation official should have the power Sundar is purportedly wielding.
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she works for a govt company and needs permissions / certificates etc. from the official federation. there are also expenses for her coach (dad) which even if they do not come from the federation, need clearance so the Indian Olympic Associatin etc. can pay. |
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| Oct-23-09 |
| yalie: The other side of the story:
http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... |
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Oct-23-09
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| alexmagnus: quote Sundar:
<Will it be wrong on the part of AICF to request the best player of the Country to represent India? And can that be construed as harrassment?> To <request> is OK. To <force> is wrong. |
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| Oct-23-09 |
| yalie: <To <request> is OK. To <force> is wrong.
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just to play Devil's Advocate - what if the player wishes AICF to reimburse travel expenses for the coach etc.? Then - would it be wrong of AICF to ask for something in return (not a personal favor but say something like playing for the country)? |
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Oct-23-09
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| tamar: Sundar's arguments probably sound reasonable to him. He views chessplayers as employees, and he is the dock foreman laying down the regulations. Humpy needs to cut all ties to this organization if the Federation wants Mr Sundar to swagger about in this manner. |
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Oct-23-09
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| rogge: Yes, cut all ties and pay the coach herself. |
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Oct-23-09
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| twinlark: She'd probably have to change countries if she did that. |
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Oct-23-09
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| tamar: What seemed like a sweet deal when she got it http://chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp... now seems more like indentured service that stands in her way. I don't think she is without fault in letting this situation develop, but her chess career will fizzle if she lets a federation boss without any reverence for chess figures choose her tournaments for her. |
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Oct-23-09
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| waustad: I wonder what Bahrain would pay to have her on first board? Where one was born seems to have little to do with who one plays for. |
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Oct-23-09
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| HeMateMe: I remember this little guy, a weightlifter from Bulgaria who was a world class athlete. They called him 'pocket Hercules', he could lift twice his weight in the clean and jerk. He was of Turkish ancestry, and Turkey so desperately wanted a world class gold medal producer, they paid Bulgaria a large sum of money for this guy to be given permission to emigrate to Turkey, change his name, and compete in the olympics under the Turk flag. I bet he lived pretty well accross the strait. |
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Oct-24-09
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| twinlark: <HeHateMe>
You're thinking of <Naim Süleymanoğlu>. He was born in Bulgaria but with Turkish ancestry. He defected from Bulgaria in 1986 while he was in Australia and resettled in Turkey because the Bulgarian regime forced him and others of Turkish descent to change their names. The Bulgarian government received $1,000,000 from Turkey to allow him to compete for Turkey in the 1988 Seoul Olympics where he won the featherweight gold medal. He went on to win gold at Barcelona and Atlanta. |
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| Oct-25-09 |
| Koni: I, like everyone else, felt sorry for Humpy upon reading her first press release but upon reading Mr Sundar's reply and now Humpy's subsequent response, I actually it is her who is being somewhat unreasonable. Her emails to the AICF come across as being extremely pushy and her demands for certificates seem somewhat pathetic, all the more to air it all in public. Although I'm sure some fault lies with the AICF, I do feel she needs to grow up a bit. |
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Oct-25-09
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| SugarDom: India officials are short-sighted...
For being No.2 in the world, behind Judith Polgar she can't even have her father join her in her outings... |
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Oct-25-09
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| HeMateMe: I just hope she isn't bartered to pay off a farm debt... |
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Oct-25-09
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| SugarDom: Wanting your father to come with as a trainer is not unreasonable... If i'm her, i'll offer my services to play for, say, Malaysia... |
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Oct-25-09
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| dunkenchess: Poor GM Kuneru Humpy she's a victim of a vicious DOM. If not a DOM, a person in his second childhood. This crazy DV Sundar of India must be replaced immediately. If he is that powerful, GM Kuneru should change team. |
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Oct-25-09
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| dunkenchess: Just look at he Russian chess players. They left for either US, Spain, Switzerland, Israel, etc. |
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Oct-25-09
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| HeMateMe: Lev Alburt was the first of the really big names to switch, I think. I don't know if he emigrated with permission, or just defected, but he won or tied three USA championships in the 80s. Shirov may be the biggest name to leave on his own. I think he first went to Spain, played on their national team. He has always played in the Bundesliga. |
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| Oct-26-09 |
| kurtrichards: GM Humpy, get out of India and become world champion before long. Quick! |
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Oct-26-09
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| HeMateMe: Yu fan is already ranked number nine among ALL chinese players? Not sure, I thought I read that somewhere. If thats true, I don't think HUmpy can beat her in a match. Kosteniuk will probably be facing Hu Yifan in the next ladies championship, Yifan will probably be the favorite. |
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| Oct-27-09 |
| kurtrichards: In 2008 Miss Hou Yifan won her match against Miss Koneru Humpy in a tiebreak, if am not mistaken, thus earning the right to face Miss Akexandria Kosteniuk for the championship. Eventually, Kosteniuk became the 2008 ladies chess champion. Next time around, same old faces and maybe a couple of new faces, will face each other in the eliminationns, Humpy and Yifan will face each other again, maybe Humpy will win or maybe Yifan or maybe one or the other will be eliminated as the rounds progressed, who knows, but one thing is for sure, all players will be as hungry as the wolf for the title. |
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Oct-28-09
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| HeMateMe: Humpy has other options:
Humpy has offers from other countries
Vijay Tagore / DNATuesday, October 27, 2009 2:47 IST Email Mumbai: The l'ffaire Humpy has turned into a media war between India's best woman chess player and All-India Chess Federation (AICF) secretary DV Sundar. You may also want to see
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After charges, counter-charges, there is now a new twist to the controversy. On Monday, Koneru Humpy's father revealed to DNA that his Grandmaster daughter has got offers from a few international federations to represent their country. "I can confirm to you that Humpy has been approached by some federations," Koneru Ashok said. He refused to name the countries who have promised to roll out the red carpet for his daughter. "I cannot disclose the names," he added. Ashok, however, pledged his daughter's commitment to Indian chess. "She has been harassed by the AICF but she is willing to take the harassment in her stride. She will not leave the country," Ashok, a Dronacharaya Award winner, said. He further stated that Fide, the World chess Federation, will be sending her invites for its tournaments directly. "I hope the AICF and its secretary Sundar will not come in our way." Ashok recently challenged Sundar for an open debate in Hyderabad. Sundar said he was not aware of the challenge nor was he inclined for it. Sundar's contention is that Humpy has been preferring individual tournament to international team events. Besides she has been insisting that her father be allowed to accompany her to every tournament. "We can't bear the expenses of her father. If we do that there is a chance that every girl representing the country might demand similar treatment," Sundar contended. A section of the AICF thinks that Humpy is being misguided by her father and claims that having got the Dronacharya from the Government of India on AICF's recommendation, he should encourage her to play for the country. "She did not take part in the Dresden Olympiad last year, she did not come for the Asian team event held in her home state (Vizag) and recently she stayed away from the World team championship in China. We could have won a medal if she had taken part," an AICF official said. Ashok, however, challenged Sundar to prove his allegations. He even went on to reveal correspondence showing his daughter's confirmation in four tournaments next year. "I would like to confirm my availability to represent India in the following women tournaments -- 3rd Asian Indoor Games in Vietnam, 2009, Chess Olympiad in Russia, 2010, Asian Games in China, 2010, Women's world chess championship in Turkey, 2010," a letter claimed to have been sent by her, states. She eventually went on to withdraw from the Vietnam event because of the current controversy."At this stage she is not in the right mental state to play in that event," Ashok said. On Monday, Humpy was in New Delhi purportedly summoned by Petroleum Sports
Promotion Board (PSPB). It could not be confirmed but an AICF official said she was asked to 'explain.' Meanwhile, a Delhi-based AICF official said that he will try to bring about peace between Humpy and Sundar. "The controversy could have been avoided. Such a controversy will do no good to the game and we also have to protect our sponsors," Bharat Singh Chauhan, the AICF treasurer said. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| dumbgai: Does Humpy actually play anyone rated over 2600? She seems to just beat up on all the women rated 100-150 points below her. |
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| Nov-03-09 |
| yalie: <dumbgai: Does Humpy actually play anyone rated over 2600? She seems to just beat up on all the women rated 100-150 points below her.> Koneru vs I Cheparinov, 2006
Koneru vs J Smeets, 2006
Koneru vs Stellwagen, 2006
L Bruzon vs Koneru, 2003 |
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Nov-03-09
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| HeMateMe: The India Chess Federation needs a proofreader for their translation of Hindu to English; the letter they sent to FIDE is just riddled with grammatical errors. It reads like a Junior High kid's homework assignment. |
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