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|Mar-29-12|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Shams> That is correct. <Nezhmetdinov> had fulfilled his master norms and was now entitled to be "examined" by a Master for the title of "Soviet Master of Sport in Chess."|
Originally <Lisitsin> was chosen to examine <Nezh> in a Match, but at the last minute <Mikenas> got the job.
<Nezh> had only a few days to prepare, which he did by analyzing an article <Mikenas> had recently written on Alekhine's Defence.
The Match was drawn, but since the Examiner got draw odds, <Nezh> was not granted the Soviet Master title. He didn't get it until two years later when he won the 1950 RSFSR Championship.
The episode is discussed in some detail in this documentary film about <Nezhmetdinov>:
|Mar-29-12|| ||Shams: <jessicafischerqueen> Thanks! I had to wait all of 90 seconds for that answer.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||sevenseaman: 14. Qd3+ giving up the N for the B is a GM move. Deplorably, I could not predict 22. Qc4, giving myself ample time.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||rilkefan: I wondered about 18... Qxd4, but after the obvious 19. f3+ Kd3 20. Qb5+ stockfish says ...Qc4 21. Qa5 Kd4 22. Bf4 Bf5 23. gxf5 b5 24. Qd2+ Qd3 25. Qb4+ Kd5 26. Qd6+ Kc4 27. Rc1+ Qc2 28. Rxc2#|
|Mar-29-12|| ||goodevans: 18...Bxg4 is interesting, trying to create a route back for the K. Now 19...Qxd4 would even carry a mating threat!|
I think the right way to play 18...Bxg4 would be 19.f3+ Bxf3 20.0-0. That seems keep black trapped, but it's still unclear to me.
|Mar-29-12|| ||Shams: <jessicafischerqueen> Does there exist an historical chart of which players attained the master title in this way, with their respective "examiners" also listed?|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Rook e2: Nice game! 15..Qc6 would have left black with a winning position.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||whiteshark: <"Don't Do Anything, Rash"> :D|
|Mar-29-12|| ||srag: Some Nezhmetdinov's games (this for one) make Tal look like an overcautious player!|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Llawdogg: Wish they had played this one out.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Bishoprick: Jessicafischerqueen is a wonderful chess historian! Thank JFQ for all your posts.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Penguincw: Stunning! After 10 moves, white has two connected passed pawns.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||talisman: thanks <Jess>.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||kevin86: Funny,the only pieces "developed" are white's queen and black's king. Not a good way for the black side.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Speak Low: Nezhmetdinov was one of the best chess tacticians ever. Very inspiring to see. This game is only one of his many great games...|
|Mar-29-12|| ||scormus: <JFQ> Thanks for your posts, I very much like your enthusiasm for Nezh and I always feel a rush of excitement when I see his name on GOTD.|
Opening line is well named for something that likely leads to a King hunt. Next time I meet the Alekhine, I'm going with 4. f5.
Nice pun too!
|Mar-29-12|| ||MichaelJHuman: If they had played it out, I am not sure what the continuation would be. |
Black needs to prevent Re1 from being mate maybe?
...Kf3 does not look good
|Mar-29-12|| ||goodevans: <Rook e2: ... 15..Qc6 would have left black with a winning position.>|
I need convincing of that.
E.g. 15...Qc6 16.d4+ Kf5 17.g4+ Ke4 18.f3+ Kd3 19.dxc5+ Qxd6 20.cxd6 looks OK for white.
So does 18...Kxf3 19.0-0+ Ke4 20.dxc5.
|Mar-29-12|| ||scormus: <goodevans: <Rook e2: ... 15..Qc6 would have left black with a winning position.>
I need convincing of that.>
Objectively, I think its a difficult call, but OTB i'd prefer to be playing W. B's position is a lot less forgiving, IMO. Interesting my engine gave it -1.30, but in such an imbalanced position I'm not sure whether it means much.
|Mar-29-12|| ||OhioChessFan: <goodevans: e.g. 15...Qc6 16.d4+ Kf5 17.g4+ >|
16...Kh5 is far better since g4 is now defended.
|Mar-29-12|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Shams> such a chart would be a golden resource, but if it exists I certainly don't know where it might be.|
I can tell you that in 1925 the title of "Master of Soviet Sport" was created by the <All-Union Council for Physical Culture>. The Chess Section of the Council codified the rules to become Master-
1.Score 50% in a Soviet Championship
2.Win a Match from a Master
3.Draw two Matches with Masters
4.Win a tournament containing at least three Masters.
The only Masters I know of who won their title through examination are <Goglidze>, who overcame his examiner <Nenaronkov> (1930); and <Kasparyan> who overcame his examiner <Chekhover> (1936).
Both <Goglidze> and <Kasparyan> were required to outscore their examiners by 2 full points to earn the Master title.
|Mar-29-12|| ||jessicafischerqueen: <Shams> I should add that in Russia before 1925, including the Tsarist era, the Russian title of "Master" was recognized, and the French pronunciation "Maestro" was used.
<Alekhine> was recognized as "Maestro" after he won the "All-Russian Championship" in <St. Petersburg 1909>.|
As it became more and more apparent that <Alekhine> would soon become the greatest Russian "maestro," he was actually nicknamed "Maestro."
Till his dying day, the Iberian press and chess community frequently referred to him simply as "Maestro," as if the epithet was by rights his and his alone.
|Mar-29-12|| ||Shams: <jessicafischerqueen> Nice. Your bag of goodies is huge.|
|Mar-29-12|| ||BlackSheep: Nezh is just a joy to see at work his tactical prowess is virtually unrivalled .
<Shams> "<jessicafischerqueen> Nice. Your bag of goodies is huge" Is this a euphemism .|
|Mar-29-12|| ||Shams: <BlackSheep> No, it is not. I know from experience how <jfq> feels about such effronteries, for one thing. |
Think, bag of Halloween candy. With chess history trivia written in the candy bar wrappers.
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