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|Apr-29-12|| ||BlackSheep: I've seen this game before it really is one of Vishys finest pieces of art .|
|Apr-29-12|| ||ajax333221: I was reviewing one of my games, and found a crushing move I missed|
What would you do here?
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(blacks to play)
I went with the obvious move which gives around +2.5, but there is a mate in 7!
This is why we should always review our games :), you never know what crazy moves you missed
|Apr-29-12|| ||rookpawn81: I found nc7 but gave up after 26....Nc4, computer played 27. Bc5. White gives back material but ends up better.|
|Apr-29-12|| ||BlackSheep: <ajax333221> Rg4 looks good to me I think .|
|Apr-29-12|| ||WinKing: I can not put a solution on the table today as I knew that 24...Nc7 was played here. *No way* I would have come up with this move on my own if I hadn't seen the game before. This is one of Anand's most memorable wins ever IMO. I don't think white can take the knight(25.Qxc7) & survive. 25.Bf1 offers resistance according to some engines but black still looks good & has the initiative in those lines as well. Superb play by Anand in this game
|Apr-29-12|| ||voyager39: 24... Nc7!!! is like the immortal movie dialogue...every half serious chess fan, their grandma and their dog know the answer :) |
No harm done! The move is "Insane" for sure....and this game is certainly one of those I don't mind watching again and again.
|Apr-29-12|| ||BadKnight: i found it instantly! well, just kidding, this game is too famous to be a puzzle. i believe its still number one on anand's most notable games here. lets check!|
|Apr-29-12|| ||cyclon: I don't have any memory about this game and the puzzle-position. My choice for 24. -Nc7 was based on considering the dynamics of the position rather than bare computer-like calculation - mainly for two reasons; Black has to activate his King-Rook BEFORE White attacks and Knight threats next powerfully - Nb5. Calculation was done in checking what happens if White takes the Knight and I came to the conclusion that Black will prevail, whereas Whites attack is more of a prestige-like. By the way, it's good that the year, place and the tournament are NOT mentioned with the initial puzzle-diagram on the web-site.|
|Apr-29-12|| ||sevenseaman: <ajax333221> <BlackSheep> has the right move; 1...Rg4. It threatens mate. If 2. hxg4 Qxg4 3. g3 Qh3 goes on to mate while White has only spite moves.|
Its good to review and remember but not review and regret. We are all bound to miss things. Even Churchill missed trains.
|Apr-29-12|| ||brazil chess: <andrewjsacks> If 30... a1+ 31.x, if 30...c1+ 31.x c8+... I mean, I need some help here|
|Apr-29-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Ok...Wow! I like other fellow solvers have seen this game before, but for the life of me I couldn't remember how the game continued - and I was thankful of that as I really wanted to solve this one.|
I looked at many possibilities but couldn't make anything gel objectively well - therefore I decided to not provide answer (and hence not garner any points for today) and see what Anand played.
24...Nc7 came as a surprised to me as I thought that after that Karjakin had 25. Bb6. I'm going to check this one with Stockfish right now.
All in all, this was a fun and memorable solving week yet I only wound up with 5 pts out of 7! My worst total in a very long time.
This said, the objective standard to determine a pass for the day/week, in my opinion, is to net 2/3 of the possible points available: 5 out of 7, for the week, satisfies this condition.
I feel happy and humbled to have taken part in this week's puzzles as it means a lot to me that they are Anand puzzles - who was my favourite player at the time I seriously started reconnecting with Chess in the early/mid 2000's.
If it wasn't for Anand and what I learned of him through interviews and the like, my chess development would probably have been different.
It is because of his advice that I started making it a point to solve puzzles regularly and because of his advice that I picked up and studied a book called "Chess Fundamentals" by J.R. Capablanca.
I had fun this week. Thank you WC Anand!
|Apr-29-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: PS. I see that Stockfish provides a clearly winning line for Black after 24...Nc7 25. Bb6 Rxa3 26. bxa3 Nb5 27. Qxb3 Nxa3+.|
Most incredibly deep continuation by Anand here. I am both humbled and astounded by the Chess genius he displayed in this game!
|Apr-29-12|| ||M.Hassan: "Insane" Black to play 24...?
Equal in forces.
Some hidden force tells me that the Rook on f8 has to come out to help. Night blocking it has therefore to come out and sacrificed:
Heavy sacrifices of black is bringing about mate threat by Queen moving to a2
Time to check
Looks like I have done the first three moves according to the game but can't see where I have gone wrong, if I am wrong.
|May-02-12|| ||agb2002: Black has a bishop and a knight for the bishop pair.|
White threatens Qxb3 and h5-g6.
The attack seem to require more forces. This suggests 24... Nc7 to unblock the rook on f8:
A) 25.Qxc7 Rc8
A.1) 26.Qxe7 Nc4 27.Bc1 Nxa3+ 28.bxa3 (28.Ka1 Nc2+ 29.Kb1 Ra1#) 28... Rxa3 29.Bxa3 Qxa3 30.Rd2 b2 31.Rxb2 Qd3+ 32.Ka1 Ra8+ 33.Ra2 Qc3+ 34.Kb1 Rb7+ and mate in two.
A.2) 26.Qxa5 Qxa5 27.Rc1 Rxc1+ 28.Rxc1 Qa6 29.Rc3 Qe2 looks very bad for White.
A.3) 26.Qb6 Nc4 27.Qxb3 Nxa3+ 28.bxa3 Rxa3 looks winning for Black.
B) 25.Qxb3 Rb8 26.Bb6 Ra6 seems to win.
C) 25.Bc1 Nb5 26.Qxb3 Nxa3+ 27.bxa3 Rb8 wins the queen.
|May-07-12|| ||Domdaniel: I'll believe that computers are intelligent -- well, vaguely sentient anyway -- the day they start to have slanging matches and call one another 'idiot' and 'moron'.|
- Your motherboard was an egg timer! A *failed* egg timer!
- Were you built by *humans*?
|May-07-12|| ||Shams: <Domdaniel> There's always Alex P. Keaton's "I'd get a better game from the microwave!" He was playing against whatever you could buy at Radio Shack in 1986 though, so he may not have been far off.|
|May-07-12|| ||SamAtoms1980: I'd get a better game from HAL.... oh wait, he kicked Dave's ass. Never mind...|
I actually still have a timer that I got from Radio Shack when I was a kid in the late '80's, in a drawer. If I replaced the who-knows-how-old battery it would probably work again, too.
|May-07-12|| ||Shams: HAL was programmed to lose half his games.|
|May-28-12|| ||brazil chess: I still think white could've won the game by playing 30.Qxf7+ Kg8 31.Bd4... but what do I know?|
|May-28-12|| ||Shams: <brazil chess> 31...Ra1+ 32.Bxa1 Qa2#|
|Jun-01-12|| ||brazil chess: <Shams> Thank you. The sad part is it's so obvious and I could not see it.|
|Jun-18-12|| ||DrGridlock: Anand talks about his thought process in finding 24 ... Nc7 "over the board."|
"Nc7 is the only move, where Black isn't worse. So does he have something? I checked it as long as I could, and I couldn't see it. So I thought: Either I play Nc7 or I resign. So I went Nc7. It was all a bit confusing. I think I even went Nc7 quite fast, by elimination there is nothing else."
Analysis by Komodo rebuts some of Anand's desription.
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Analysis by Komodo32 3 32bit:
1. (-2.57): 24...Nc7 25.Qxc7 Rc8 26.Qxa5 Qxa5 27.Rd4 Qa8 28.Bf4 Qa6 29.Rhd1 Qe2 30.R4d2 Qg4 31.Rf1 Kh8 32.f6 gxf6 33.Bh1 Qxh4 34.gxf6 Qxf6 35.Rdd1 Qe6 36.Be3 Qg4 37.Bd4 f6 38.Rg1 Qe2 39.Rge1 Qh5 40.Bc3
2. ³ (-0.36): 24...Nf6 25.gxf6 Bxf6 26.Rd2 Rc8 27.Qxb3 Rb8 28.Bb6 Qc6 29.Rc1 Rc5 30.Rxc5 dxc5 31.h5 c4 32.Qb5 Qxb5 33.Nxb5 Rxb6 34.Nc3 Rb8 35.Nd5 c3 36.Rc2 Nc4 37.Nxf6+ gxf6 38.Rxc3 Rxb2+ 39.Kc1 Rxg2 40.Rxc4
3. = (0.05): 24...Ra4 25.Qxb3 Nc7 26.Rd4 Ra6 27.Rc1 Nc6 28.g6 Rb8 29.Qxf7+ Kh8 30.Rxc6 Rxa3 31.Rxc7 Rxe3 32.Qxe7 Rxb2+ 33.Kxb2 Qa3+ 34.Kc2 Qa2+ 35.Kd1 Qa1+ 36.Kc2 Qa2+
4. ² (0.29): 24...Ng4 25.Rd5 Rxd5 26.exd5 Qa4 27.Qc4 Qxc4 28.Nxc4 Nxe3 29.Nxe3 Nc7 30.Rc1 Na6 31.f6 gxf6 32.Nf5 Bd8 33.gxf6 Bxf6 34.Nxd6 Bxh4 35.Rc3 Rb8 36.Bf1 Be1 37.Re3 Bb4 38.Nxf7 Kxf7 39.Bxa6 Bd6 40.Rh3
5. ² (0.35): 24...Ra6 25.Rhg1 Rc6 26.Qxb3 Nc7 27.Rd4 Ra6 28.f6 Nc6 29.fxe7 Rb8 30.Qc4 Rxa3 31.Rxd6 Nxe7 32.e5 Ra1+ 33.Kc2 Qa4+ 34.Qxa4 Rxa4 35.Rd7 Nf5 36.Bd2 Ne6 37.Rf1 Rd4 38.Bd5 Rxh4 39.Rf2 g6 40.b4
While 24 ... Nc7 is Black's best reply, 24 ... Nf6 also gives an advantage to black, so there are other options to Nc7 besides "resignation" for black.
|Dec-16-12|| ||kevinatcausa: Fun fact about this game: Every single one of the first 39 moves (through 20. axb3) is the most common move given in the Opening Explorer from the position at its point in the game. |
This probably continues a few more moves, but that's as far as the Opening Explorer goes.
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