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|Jan-29-05|| ||Ron: Thank you chessgames.com for bringing up this game. I had the privilege of meeting Marvin Dandridge. Around ten years I used to see him play in the coffehouses of Chicago. If I recall correctly he showed us this game. Marvin is also a funny guy too. |
|Jan-29-05|| ||EXIDE: 23. Nxh7;Qd5
26. Qh8+:KxN what am I missing?
|Jan-29-05|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: <EXIDE: 23. Nxh7;Qd5
I think white should play 26 Bxg6 instead of Qh8+.
|Jan-29-05|| ||EXIDE: <Gregor Mendel> Thanks!Tried 26. Bxg6.However the win is not that obivious to me after 26...;NxN(f7) |
|Jan-29-05|| ||MatrixManNe0: I think it would be rather easy to deduce that there must be a combination of some sort if any one of us had come across this position. The execution, however, would be more difficult. |
|Jan-29-05|| ||Gregor Samsa Mendel: <EXIDE>--You're right. Maybe white should try 25 Bxg6, as previous posters suggested. Or in your line <23. Nxh7;Qd5 24.Pf3;Nxh7 25.Nxf7;Nf8> white should play 26 Nxd8 and then 27 Bxg6 with three pawns for the piece and a continuing attack. Black should definitely have played 23...Qd5. |
|Jan-30-05|| ||patzer2: <offramp> I had initially looked at this game without any computer analysis. However, after a review with Fritz 8, I'll have to concede 23. Bxg6! is far better than 23. Nxh7!?, as played in the game.|
After 23. Nxh7!?, Fritz found the interesting defense 23...Qd5!? (as opposed to 23...Nxh7?! played in the game) 24.Nxf6+ Bxf6 25.f3 Bg7 26.Qf4 Ba6 27.Ra2 Bb7 28.Ra1 Qd6 29.Bd2 Rc4 30.Nxc4 Bxd4+ 31.Kf1 Qxf4 32.Bxf4 Bxa1 33.Bxg6 fxg6 34.Rxa1 Ba6 35.Rc1 Nf7 36.a4 Rc8 37.b5 Bb7 38.Nb2 Rxc1+ 39.Bxc1▒, when, with opposite colored Bishops and a pawn advantage, White's advantage is clear but the win is far from certain.
However, the analysis after 23. Bxg6! is a clear win for White in every variation:
[23...hxg6 24.Nexf7 Nxf7 25.Qxg6+ Kh8 (25...Kf8 26.Qxf7#) 26.Nxf7#]
23.xg6 fxg6 24.xh7 xh7
[24...Be4 25.Bd2 Rc2 (25...Bf5 26.Nxf6+ Bxf6 27.Bxc3 Bxe5 28.dxe5 Qd3 29.Qc1 Nf7 30.Rd2 Qb5 31.Bd4 a6 32.Qc3 a5 33.f3 g5 34.Rb2 a4 35.Rc1 Rd8 36.Rd2 Rd5 37.g4 Bg6 38.Qc8+ Kh7 39.Qxe6 ) 26.Rxe4 Rxd2 (26...Nxe4 27.Qxg6+ Kh8 28.Qxe8+ Bf8 29.Nxf8 ) 27.Qxg6+ Kh8 28.Ng5 ]
23.xg6 fxg6 24.xh7 xh725.xg6+ h8 26.xe8+ f8 27.xd8 xd8 28.f7+ g8 29.xd8
|Jan-30-05|| ||aw1988: <chessgames> Looks like we have a cook! |
|Jan-30-05|| ||Ron: <patzer2> Thanks for the analysis. If I run into Marvin Dandridge again (alas, I haven't seen him for some time) I will show him this and this chess website.
I think he would be interested. One time at a coffeshop he showed us one of his victories, but he asked us to come up with better defenses for his opponent. |
|Jan-31-05|| ||patzer2: <Ron> Thanks for the personal note. I see you are engaged in Chess computer research. Appreciate any tips you could offer us on the use of computers for Chess analysis. |
|Feb-08-05|| ||catfriend: <offramp: 23...d5 24.f3 xh7 25.xg6 f5 and now what? |
It looks like 23.xg6 was better.>
25.:f7 and the same way as the game continued!
|Oct-04-12|| ||FSR: Kreiman Punishment.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||al wazir: I think 21...h5 would have solved black's defensive problems. For example, if 22. Nxg6 fxg6 23. Bxg6, then 23...Qxg2+. Moving the off the long diagonal deprived him of his only counter-threat.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||Abdel Irada: This pun really gets my Dandridge up.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||HeMateMe: Does 24...Bxg6 also win?|
|Nov-01-12|| ||gars: Brilliant pun! Congratulations!|
|Nov-01-12|| ||Ratt Boy: Love the pun! Props to FSR for suggesting it.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||kevin86: White chops off both protecting pawns,then enters with queen at g6.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||galdur: Among the very best puns, I think. LOL.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||pablo333: I don't know if I'm missing something here: but haven't the publishers of this game made a mistake... 26 Bh6+ should actually read 26 Bh6#!?|
|Nov-01-12|| ||pablo333: Of course - 26... Nxh6! Silly me!|
|Nov-01-12|| ||JonathanJ: great pun, yes.|
|Nov-01-12|| ||waustad: Criminy! He whupped him!|
|Nov-01-12|| ||FSR: This is the 36th pun of mine that CG.com has used. Game Collection: Puns I submitted|
|Nov-01-12|| ||Abdel Irada: Aha! So *you* are the punster, Rodion Romanovich Rhine, aka <FSR>.|
I believe a certain explosive lieutenant will soon be paying you a call.
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