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|Apr-20-12|| ||geeker: Very nice combo, but I was familiar with the position from Larsen's games collection book (got a reprint edition a few years ago).|
|Apr-20-12|| ||kevin86: I tried the Monday move (Qh6) on Friday...the Friday move is Nh6+!|
|Apr-20-12|| ||Morten: My real troubles of the week (chessgames.com-wise) begin on Friday at the latest, but not this week. I have played over this game many times before as it appears in Larsen's fine book of his 50 selected games. The elegant double knight advance to e6 and h6 stands out.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||gofer: <sevenseaman:> Many thanks for the <Crafty EGT> link for yesterday's puzzle. I now feel that I wasn't quite so "wrong" Rxb6 is very playable!|
|Apr-20-12|| ||DarthStapler: I picked Qh6 instead|
|Apr-20-12|| ||benjaminpugh: This wasn't a Friday puzzle. I saw the move and all the variations almost immediately, and I'm a patzer. The knight check was a pretty obvious candidate with white's other knight blocking the f8 escape square.|
Moving black's king to h8 loses immediately to Bxg7. Capturing the knight loses two moves later after Qxh6 (not counting the spite check with black's rook).
Without white's bishop also covering g7, along with the en prise knight, the whole thing falls apart. Maybe some people will miss the bishop as it's way off in the other corner. That's the only way I can think this puzzle was "difficult."
|Apr-20-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: Very cool! A Larsen puzzle!
<32. Nh6+ gxh6>
(32...Kh8 33. Bxg7#)
<33. Qxh6> 1-0 as Black has no satisfactory way of defending himself from mate:
A) 33...fxe6/...f6 34. Qg7#
B) 33...Bf8 34. Qg5+ and 35. Qxg7#
C) 33...Bf6 34. Bxf6 and mate is unavoidable.
D) 33...Rc2+ 34. Kh3 Rxh2+ (34...Rxb2 35. Qg7#) 35. Kxh2 and mate cannot be stopped.
|Apr-20-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <sevenseaman> After 32. Nh6 gxh6 33. Qxh6 Rc2+ 34. Kh3 from your original post,|
<i)b. 34...Rxb2 or fxe6 35. Qg7 or even Qg5#>
Only 35. Qg7# should be played! Not 35. Qg5+?? Bxg5 0-1
<ii) 32. Kh8 33. Nxf7#>
33. Nxf7+ is not mate and is inferior to 33. Bxg7#
I apologize if this note seems insensitive, but you need to take care when commiting the ideas that have have welled forth from you into the written format.
|Apr-20-12|| ||sevenseaman: <gofer> <Rxb6 is very playable!> Yes it is good move. There are more than one way of winning this game.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||Gilmoy: Jogged my memory; I soon dredged up my earlier solution (from its GotD appearance just 1.5 years ago).|
The <double-double> appears only in analysis, as the hidden sting behind <31.Nxe6>.
|Apr-20-12|| ||sevenseaman: <LoveThatJoker>I am delighted that you read my post with meticulous attention to detail. 33. Nf7# is a definite oversight and even I feel surprised it slipped through my fingers. |
You are quite right <35. Qg5> is erroneous in this context and it did not belong here. It should have been 35. Qe7# alone.
Now that we are at it I will show you how it crept in.
I was thinking of the following line; (I didn't even write it as it looked outright extravagant and inane)
32. Nh6+ gxh6 33. Qxh6 Bf6 34. Bxf6 Rc2+ 35. Kh3 Rxh2+ 36. Kxh2.
now when I was at this node of thought I said to myself 'both 36...Nxf6 and 36...fxe6 are useless as the White Q mates from g7 with the help of either minor that survives. I suppose Black may just as well make a silly looking move like 37.. a6, Qxb3, Nc6 or Nc5 and White would mate from 37. Qg7# or even Qg5#'.
And that last move 37. Qg5# was a bit of residual memory that I inserted in the wrong place. (Here even 37. Qg5# works).
Yes I need to be more alert. Thanks.
|Apr-20-12|| ||bwarnock: <<King Death> Nice of you to come in. 1. Qf6 is by far the best move and we too did not see a forced 4-mate.
The book solution is <1.Rf8+ Rxf8 2.Bc4+ Kg7 3.e8=N+ Rxe8 4.Qf7#>|
The solution is refuted by 1...Qxf8 to which we could find no answer(for a 4-mate).>
Yes, you're (both) right - there's no mate in 4 after 1. Rf8+ Qxf8 (!). A fairly typical piece of carelessness on Reinfeld's part.
|Apr-20-12|| ||BlackSheep: I guess I'm not alone in thinking this is too easy for a Friday its another one of those "one move blows the situation to bits" situations rather than a neat combo which needs a few side variations checked to see if it all works .|
|Apr-20-12|| ||dumbgai: I think this was way too easy for a Friday. I mean, I found 32. Nh6+ immediately and there are too many mate threats for black to avoid after 32...gxh6 32. Qh6. There is also no tricky sequence of checks to avoid; after 32...Rc2+ 33. Kh3 black is toast.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||cyclon: Is the diagram position correct or what? Because I see the answer being surprisingly easy THIS time; 32. Nh6+ gxh6 ( -Kh8 33. Bxg7X ) 33. Qxh6 and mate cannot be prevented whatever Black plays, for example 33. -Bf8 34. Qg5+/33. -Rc2+ 34. Kh3/ 33. -Bf6 34. Bxf6 and all these plus whatsoever mates.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||bwarnock: <sevenseaman ... Please also examine my solution to Korchnoi vs Yusupov, 1981 and see if it is sound. (It is different, to be sure).>|
Your suggested move is playable and keeps an advantage (and a likely win - only after a fairly difficult endgame though). The game continuation is better - see analysis....
Korchnoi vs Yusupov, 1981
|Apr-20-12|| ||sevenseaman: Thanks <bwarnock> for both the analyses and I concur with your views about the two clarifications requested by me.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||fischer2009: I missed it.Qh6 is the move i saw and it seemed like winning.Didnt bother checking further.|
|Apr-20-12|| ||LoveThatJoker: <sevenseaman> Thanks for acknowldging my note, man! |
|Apr-21-12|| ||M.Hassan: <WinKing & FSR>:
33.Nh6# such a simple move and I did not see it. I should have pondered more to ask clarification from <WinKing>
|Apr-21-12|| ||FSR: <M.Hassan> No biggie. We all have bouts of blindness sometimes. :-)|
|Apr-21-12|| ||BlackSheep: With game of the day being called "Great Dane" I thought Gus Hansen had taken up chess for a min .|
|Jan-09-13|| ||Eduardo Bermudez: Larsen at his prime !!|
|Apr-21-13|| ||sergeidave: Horses gone wild!! Amazing game! This reminded me a bit of one of Anand's games in which he too nuked black's king with knights... awesome stuff.|
|Apr-21-13|| ||sergeidave: Ahhh... I found the game I was referring to. The positions are not quite that similar, but what makes them similar is the way the knights go kamikaze, one from the left side then immediately after, the other knight catapults itself from the right... Anand vs Ponomariov, 2002|
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