| Jun-17-12 | | LoveThatJoker: Guess-the-Move Final Score:
E Hagara vs M Manik, 2000.
YOU ARE PLAYING THE ROLE OF HAGARA.
Your score: 39 (par = 26)
LTJ
PS. GOTD: Manik Panic
Inspiration for pun is http://www.manicpanic.com/ |
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Nov-30-12
 | | xthred: Is there a mac compatible tool for analyzing these games? |
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Nov-30-12
 | | King Sacrificer: Is the knight sac sound? Or in more general, where did Black go wrong? |
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| Nov-30-12 | | leo.bulero: playing black I would try to castle instead of moving the king |
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Nov-30-12
 | | Honza Cervenka: The Knight sac on d5 is perfectly sound. I think that black played the opening "on autopilot" without much thinking about white's play and possibilities. I don't like black's mixing of ideas from different Sicilian setups here. I guess that already 7...Qc7 was not ideal but 8...d6 and 9....Nf6 paved the way to a disaster. Black King stayed in the centre and white just exploited it in the most effective and energetic way. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | Abdel Irada: <Honza Cervenka>: Agreed: Saccing on d5 is thematic in many Sicilians anyway, and here 9. Re1 should have been a warning. However, in this position at least Black can decline the offer with 11. ...Qd8, when I see no immediate way for White to cash in. But then, I may be overlooking an idea. Can you (or anyone) show a convincing win after 11. ...Qd8? |
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Nov-30-12
| | Honza Cervenka: <Abdel Irada> I think that 11...Qd8 just runs into big troubles after 12.Bg5. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | Garech: Great game!
11.Nd5 is very strong. In response to 11...Qd8, as suggested by <Abdel Irada> there is no knockout blow, but simply 12.Bg5 gives white a huge edge at nearly three pawns: 
click for larger viewthe biggest threat being e5! where the Bb7 is in tactical danger and sacrifices on e6 are looking lethal. Nb black can't answer 12...Be7 or white answers 13.Nxe7 Qxe7 14.Nf5! 
click for larger viewwith a crushing attack.
Cheers,
-Garech |
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Nov-30-12
| | benveniste: Black seems to have gone wrong on move 14. I think 14. ...  c5 would have disrupted white's timing and led to an approximately equal game.
15. ...  c8 ensured the end would come quickly. |
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Nov-30-12
 | | kevin86: black's game collapses like a deck of st Louis Cards. |
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Nov-30-12
| | shavale: 15. Qe8+, NxQe8 16.RxNe8+, Qd8 17.RxQd8+ is faster |
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Nov-30-12
| | shavale: or may be 17.BxQd8 |
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| Nov-30-12 | | jovack: I find it hard to believe manik is 2400 here... |
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Nov-30-12
 | | perfidious: < jovack: I find it hard to believe manik is 2400 here...> Everyone has their moments, even in the same event.
A few years before this game, I played Manik in a rapid event at Philadelphia, got a winning position after some dubious play by him, but he escaped with a draw. Later in the event, he beat Roman Dzindzichashvili in a crucial game. Should we criticise him for failing to defeat the relatively weak player, or laud him for taking down the GM? Here is a similar Nd5 sacrifice in the Sicilian Kan: Shabalov vs J Benjamin, 1993 |
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| Nov-30-12 | | Moszkowski012273: With proper play on blacks part the Nd5 sac should result in a draw. |
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sac: 11.Nd5
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