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| Dec-29-09 | | Inf: 9.Nxe5 and the engines say it's -1.28 to black. 12.f5 and engines still say it's -0.98 to black. But black's next move 12...Nh6 seems to be not good at all since now position is dead equal (+0.01). After being equal, white plays 18.Qe1 and now it's -1.53. 23.Re7 seems to be bad (-1.44) but black then replies 23...Rg8 and now it's +2.48! 30.e7 and white is winning (+3.59!). |
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| Jul-20-11 | | ToTheDeath: <Inf>: You listen to engines too much. Use the force, Luke. The computers think Black is better after the sac because they don't understand the position. It's the horizon effect- once a few forced moves have been played they start to see how much compensation White has. |
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Oct-02-11
 | | GrahamClayton: <molinov>After 10.... Nc6. "The best way to rebuttal a gambit is to accept it". Still I have to admit cowardy on my part. I considered 10.... Bd6 11. fxe5 Bxe5 12.Bh6 and concluded that White had the advantage. Returning the material with 10...d6 leads to 11. fxe5 dxe5 12.  g5 e7 13.  f3 with threats against f6 and f7. |
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| Oct-20-11 | | 64rutor: "My lesson in this game was to beware of falling behind in development, even in innocent looking positions!" (Yasser Seirawan, Winning Chess Strategies) |
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| Nov-30-11 | | knighterrant999: Another example demonstrating that chess is a divine combination of science and art. I want to cry now. |
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| May-20-12 | | vinidivici: lololol 9.Nxe5....first time i saw that i thought WOW that Zuniga guy must be had a big guts. And now i still thinking so....is that move sound? |
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| May-20-12 | | LoveThatJoker: GG
LTJ |
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| May-20-12 | | offramp: The pun refers to the fact that both players are Wood-pushers. |
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| May-20-12 | | YoungEd: This is an awesome game! |
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May-20-12
 | | HeMateMe: I don't see how the pun works. Funny movie, it just doesn't connect anyway here. I've notificed the Pun Police, and there will be an OFFICIAL inquery. |
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| May-20-12 | | daveinsatiable: What a game and what a pun!
White's plan sure looks like it came from another planet. |
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| May-20-12 | | offramp: White's killer move comes on move 9. |
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| May-20-12 | | molinov: It's been 8 years since I posted part of the commentary made by Seirawan. I can't find the magazine but if I do I'll translate what's missing. |
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| May-20-12 | | rilkefan: At a depth of 30 (2.7 Gnodes) stockfish has Nxe5 as -0.3 based on 12...Rb8 and very precise play. When I actually go forward seven ply past Rb8 though it decides the position is dead equal: 13.Bf4 Bh6 14.Ne4 Bxf4 15.Nd6+ Kf8 16.Rxf4 Nh6 17.Qd2 g5 18.Rh4 Ng8 19.f6 h6 20.Nxf7 (critical) Kxf7 21.Bd5+ and a perpetual soon. Stockfish likes the normal 9.a3/10.b4/11.Nd5 or Rb1 quite a lot - 0.6 at a depth of 29 (1 Gnode). Black having played e5 in two moves ought to cost him, and the double fianchetto isn't the fastest development. But Nxe5 appears not to lose and certainly sets black some very difficult problems. Kudos to Granda-Zuniga for creativity and guts. |
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May-20-12
 | | DarthStapler: Excuse me if I'm missing something but what happens if black plays 32..Bxe7? |
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| May-20-12 | | Jim Bartle: Do you mean 23. Bxe7? |
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| May-20-12 | | Jim Bartle: Granda does sometimes appear to be from outer space. |
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| May-20-12 | | belgradegambit: For fun rent the movie "Ed Wood" with Johnny Depp as the cross-dressing low budget director. Immediately after see "Plan 9 Fron Outer Space" as a sort of double feature and you'll enjoy Plan 9 even more because of the back story. |
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May-20-12
| | DarthStapler: Yes I mean 23 |
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| May-20-12 | | wildrookie: The level of complication in this game is incredible, isn't it? |
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| May-20-12 | | Jim Bartle: I suppose 23...Bxe7 would be followed by 24. Nxe7+ and 25. Bxa8, winning a bishop. |
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May-20-12
 | | whiteshark: Do nothing or ignore the consequences, aka plan A and plan B. |
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| May-20-12 | | Jason Frost: Nothing going right for Seirawan. Terrible U.S. championship and now on the receiving end of a CG GOTD, rough week. |
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| May-20-12 | | offramp: I like to watch Titanic followed by Raise the Titanic. |
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| May-22-12 | | Jim Bartle: "I like to watch Titanic followed by Raise the Titanic." I'd rather book passage on the Titanic. |
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sac: 9.Nxe5